Destroyer of Kings' Influences

[phyrrus]

There I was, a successful General King, Heir of the world throne and into 1350s, half of the known MTW world was in my hand, the glorious and largest army, most advanced equip army too and most riches of riches of all the Kings/ Sultans. All fear my army of invincible. My influence sky rocket high after high (battle won, land occupy, ambassador every state and hostile). Faithful of Pope call for crusades(hehehe, once a kingdom is excomm ..there i was launching in full speed attacking with a blink of an eye.). I control the many ships covering every water region. Btw im Italian businessman with powerful influences.
Building many crusade sticks in Venice (99% zeal.) with worthless next door tiny neighbour lapdog of reemerging German.

I can crush him anytime but well I will be too lonely.(Anyway it is so harmless with 150 peasant, urban militia and vanilla archers with undercrew ballista) When i was campaigning pulling my prestigious Venice army into campaign, (left 300 Italian infantry with no star. I WAS ATTACKED BY THIS GERMAN peasants, my army defeated and rretreat to castle. Aftermath the region under their control. All my 4 Crussade sticks were ABOLISHED. Bang The next year come out a menu to choose Rebel and Loyalists.
Huh it cant be my screen, it cant be ahhhhhhh
Now i realise is that one crusade stick cost 2 crown influence. Sob SOB sob
too many rebels , even my son and uncle rebel.
I quit and curse curse myself. Is this ever happening to you? Anythingelse that can kill the king influences.

[Gregoshi]

Hello phyrrus. Welcome to the Org. Your son and uncle are already here and are anxious to talk to you... Hehehe. Just kidding about that last bit - only your uncle is here...

May I ask why you quit? It sounds like the game has thrown down a challenge to what was turning into an easy win. Rise to the challenge Crush that traitorous son and uncle How DARE they try to take your throne You had a great story going there and now you have a chance to turn it into a lengendary story.

The true judge of a man's character is not how he deals with success, but rather how he deals with failure.

Go forth and reclaim the throne that is rightly yours...

[phyrrus]

Thks for your concern frd but i did fight back ..is just that all relatives turn on me wave after wave ..i finally crush the rebellion but there again sprout rebel or loyalist..loyalist ...then crush them again .. rebel or loyalistss...rebel...then crush ...then there goes again ..crushing them ... then rebel or loyalist ..by that time the whole world treat my rebellions province as gold mine..wow ..and the most powerful army (me) are begging to have their mercy and stop grabbing my hard built kingdom..sob sob..they wont listen..guess i got myself a poor royal house..seems all the army has loyalty between nil and three...its toolate to save my kingdom...now i fight for survivor to the end. hours of playing becoming start of the game..loh

[Gregoshi]

Wow Constant rebellions Are you still in the civil war phase or is it just leaderless rebellions now? I wasn't clear on this: is the game over or are you still playing it out? I'd love to hear the outcome. It sounds utterly amazing - okay, and frustrating too.

Ya gotta love this game

[Obadiah]

Phyrrus - what level of difficulty were you playing?

[katank]

yeah, is this constant? is it civil wars or bandits or loyalists, reemergences etc.?

if of numerous variety and year after year, this is very interesting. are you playing this out? could be a good story.
*cues music*
the dramatic story of the lowly HRE army that brings about the possible destruction of the new Roman empire Will the rebels prevail or will the Doge prevail and become even more powerful than ever before. muhahahah
*music ends along with cheesiness*

[son of spam]

Ouch So many civil wars must hurt.

BTW, I've never chosen the rebel side in a civil war before. If you do, do you lose all your ships?
That would hurt for your trade. Oh yeah, how'd your italian inf lose against peasents?

[Gregoshi]

Quote[/b] (son of spam @ Mar. 10 2004,19:45)]Oh yeah, how'd your italian inf lose against peasents?

Will we ever know why the nearly impossible happened? Why is it that in certain key times, a man can rise above himself and perform feats that echo down the annals of History? Or is it just program bug?

Such is the stuff of legends.

[neogerry]

lol

[phyrrus]

well guys..it happen twice to me first when im italian and the second aragon. Believe it rebel after rebel. The game never end tho..is just that ur royal house (many princes and good star generals)were taking over throne..like usurper after usurper..i think it happen to any empire ..like byzantine.. funny tho its not game over. Fight to the last royal line i guess. strange thing tho..i find the highest ranking general loyal to Royal house no matter how many civil war occur. Oh YES I was playing Hard mode starting from early.
it happen to me im sure it happen to u guys. somewhere. Try it. I found something that degrade King's influences after last nite try and test.

1. Cross sticks destroy when invade by enemy will decrease the Kings influence
2. Your crusade on your way banished due to the excomm or muslim country taken by other catholics or ally.(The crusaders army return to nearest province)
3. Crusaders Linger too long in other country and finnaly banished and lost purposes.
4. King siege in other country but cut out from his domain.
5. King lose battle after battle.
Oh yeah No matter which side u choose : your fleet of trade ships still intact. thats good thing.

[phyrrus]

sorry its not 150 HRE its 1500 (round up)anyway I though Italian troops can win agst peasants but if the urban militias flank on my left and right wing. U got to hand out the Hard Ai..they love flanking. Anyway I though my Italian army can withstand / stood there and able to hold wave after wave. Valour increase by one..but suddenly routed. I realised the undercrew Ballista shooting at me after i chase their routed peasants. Then suddenly reinforcement appear (fresh urban militia)and start to flank my expose army. I still remember this ill fated battlefield.
Unluckiest battle among tens of battles but the most significant one nonetheless.