Shogun Total War mod for MTW-VI

**Marshal Murat** · 10-05-2003, 21:47

If I remember correctly the samurai ships where like fortresses on hulls, bristling with cannons and such.
Mori:Warrior Monk Bowmen (Elite bowmen, armed with Nagi)
Shimazu:Blade Masters (No Dachi and Kensai mix)
Usegi:Elite Archer (Couldn't think of anything else)
Imagawa:Emmissary Assasins (going along with Assasin traits not sure if a real warrior)
Takeda:Heavy Takeda Calvary (Calvary Charges
Hojo:Garrison Soldiers (for the forts)
Oda:Long Spearmen (Swiss Pikemen like)
Rebeals:Ikko Ikki (Ashigaru Yari with improved attack)
Also for sieges, we could have special samurai gunmen with a palisade and mon.

**Jeebus_Frist** · 10-07-2003, 20:33

Barocca, you are my personal hero This is unreal It makes me want to

then

again

Brilliant

**NagatsukaShumi** · 10-07-2003, 21:35

Barrocca,

Would you like some help with research? I have some free time on my hands aside researching my own MOD, I'd be happy to help.

**TenkiSoratoti** · 10-07-2003, 22:48

Well this mod best be using similar stats to the 1.03 community build patch for MI. Can't be having rampaging killer Muskies and Spears that beat Swords can we?

TP

**barocca** · 10-08-2003, 08:39

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (NagatsukaShumi @ Oct. 07 2003,15:35)]Barrocca,

Would you like some help with research? I have some free time on my hands aside researching my own MOD, I'd be happy to help.

at the moment i still have to find some leader type persons for Takeda, Uesugi, Hojo and the Mongols for both invasions,

Shimazu, Oda, Imagawa and Mori have enough (or almost enough)

- goal is 20+ Daimyo's, heirs and potential heirs,
and 100+ generals...
any characters of historical note qualify,

**barocca** · 10-08-2003, 08:42

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (TenkiPanda @ Oct. 07 2003,16:48)]Well this mod best be using similar stats to the 1.03 community build patch for MI. Can't be having rampaging killer Muskies and Spears that beat Swords can we?

TP

i have 2 choices,

first choice is an overwrite mod, replacing the current version of medieval,

second version (preffered) is an expansion mod,

drawbacks to first version include losing all current campaigns, meaning a complete second installed copy of medieval,

drawbacks to second version are the inability to alter the projectile stats file and losing the capability to assign custom portraits.

Second version is preferred, not being able to assign portraits is a minor nuisance,

second version also means uber muskets are impossible,
they are much closer to 1.03 than 1.0, .01 or .02...

**Iced~Metal** · 10-08-2003, 13:09

Hey barocca,

I was wondering if you have time, could you zip up and send me the unit graphics for the arbalesters, I'm making a mod and I don't have Shogun anymore.

gothik_wrath@yahoo.com

**Duke John** · 10-08-2003, 14:03

Just thinking that our Administrator might be given something for his hard work

So if I would make a few models for you, what would you like to see? Preferable infantry and with some concept images/links. Or are the Shogun BIFs suffucient?

After ancient, medieval but still fantasy I'm looking for a new area, abuse me

After looking at those Shogun units again, then it's a shame the Medieval units look so bad compared to the Japanese. I almost start to think that my models are not better anymore

Cheers, Duke John

**TenkiSoratoti** · 10-08-2003, 15:11

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (barocca @ Oct. 08 2003,02:42)]i have 2 choices,

first choice is an overwrite mod, replacing the current version of medieval,

second version (preffered) is an expansion mod,

drawbacks to first version include losing all current campaigns, meaning a complete second installed copy of medieval,

drawbacks to second version are the inability to alter the projectile stats file and losing the capability to assign custom portraits.

Second version is preferred, not being able to assign portraits is a minor nuisance,

second version also means uber muskets are impossible,
they are much closer to 1.03 than 1.0, .01 or .02...

Well I hope you come to a wise decision.
A total re-install of MTW you say? I think most of us here would be willing to do that.
The final point you make is quite pleasing, Muskies definately need to be closer to 1.03 than they are to 1.0, 1.01 and 1.02.

TP

**Jeebus_Frist** · 10-08-2003, 18:20

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (barocca @ Oct. 08 2003,02:39)]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (NagatsukaShumi @ Oct. 07 2003,15:35)]Barrocca,

Would you like some help with research? I have some free time on my hands aside researching my own MOD, I'd be happy to help.

at the moment i still have to find some leader type persons for Takeda, Uesugi, Hojo and the Mongols for both invasions,

Shimazu, Oda, Imagawa and Mori have enough (or almost enough)

- goal is 20+ Daimyo's, heirs and potential heirs,
and 100+ generals...
any characters of historical note qualify,

Takeda

Takeda Shingen
Takeda Nobutora
Takeda Katsuchiyo
Takeda Nobushige
Takeda Yoshinobu
Takeda Katsuyori
Takeda Nobutsuna
Takeda Nobutomo
Takeda Nobumoto
Takeda Harumobu
Takeda Yoshinobu
Takeda Nobuchika
Takeda Nobuyuki
Takeda Nobukare
Takeda Katsuyori
Takeda Nobukatsu
Takeda Nobumutsu
Takeda Harukiyo
Takeda Yoshihisa
Takeda Nobukado
Takeda Nobuzane
Takeda Nobumari
Takeda Nobutoshi
Takeda Masayori

Takeda Generals

Abe Katsutoshi
Akazawa Tsuneyasu
Akiyama Nobutomo
Amari Torayasu
Amari Masatada
Anayama Nobukimi
Asahina Nobuoki
Asari Nobutane
Ashida Nobumori
Atobe Katsusuke
Hajikano Masatsugu
Hara Toratane
Hara Masatane
Imafuku Masakazu
Kiso Yoshimasa
Komiyama Tadamoto
Kosaka Masanobu
Naitô Masatoyo
Obata Toramori
Obata Masamori
Obata Nobusada
Obu Toramasa
Oyamada Nobushige
Oyamada Masatatsu
Oyamada Masayuki
Saigusa Moritomo
Sanada Yukitaka
Sanada Nobutsuna
Sanada Masayuki
Sone Masayo
Shimojo Nobuuji
Tada Mitsuyori
Tsuchiya Masatsugu
Urano Shigenari
Yamagata Masakage
Yamamoto Haruyuki
Yakota Takatoshi
Itagaki Nobutaka
Baba Nobufusa

Uesugi

Uesugi Kenshin
Uesugi Sadanomi
Uesugi Funayoshi
Uesugi Noramasa
Uesugi Kagekatsu
Uesugi Kagetora

Uesugi Generals

Nagao Tamekaga (nominal vassal)
Nagao Harukage (nominal vassal)
Jinbo Nagamoto (nominal vassal)
Nagao Masakage
Amakasu Kagemochi
Amakasu Kagetsugu
Ayukawa Kiyonaga
Honjô Shigenaga
Honjô Hidetsuna
Irobe Katsunaga
Jojo Masashige
Kakizaki Kageie
Kawada Nagachika
Kitajô Takahiro
Kitajô Kagehiro
Kojima Motoshige
Kojima Yatarô
Murakami Yoshikiyo
Nakajô Fujikasuke
Nakajô Kageyasu
Naoe Kanetsuna
Naoe Kanetsugu
Okuma Tomohide
Saitô Tomonobu
Samponji Sadanaga
Shibata Naganori
Shibata Shigeie
Suda Chikamitsu
Suibara Takaie
Takemata Yoshitsuna
Usami Sadamitsu
Yamayoshi Toyomori
Yasuda Akimoto
Yasuda Nagahide
Yoshie Kagesuke

Hojo

Hojo Ujiyasu
Hojo Ujitsuna
Hojo Tsunanari
Hojo Ujimasa
Hojo Ujitera
Hojo Ujikuni
Hojo Ujinori
Hojo Ujitada
Hojo Ujimutsu
Hojo Genan
Hojo Shinzaburo
Hojo Tsunashige
Hojo Ujishige
Hojo Ujinao
Hojo Ujisada
Hojo Naoshige
Hojo Ujifasa
Hojo Soun
Hojo Tokimasu
Hojo Tokimune

What I have read about the Hojo indicates that their refusal to submit to Toyotomi Hideyoshi put them in an extremely defensive position. Since their wars were primarily defensive I keep running into family memders but not generals.

I hope this list helps somewhat. I have taken these names directly from the Samurai Archives. Please let me know if I can be of further help.

**TheSilverKnight** · 10-08-2003, 20:55

How do you get a different campaign map without changing the original or Viking one???

I'm amazed, Barocca. Good job

I'll be awaiting the release of this one, too

**Jeebus_Frist** · 10-08-2003, 21:43

Mongols

Kublai Khan
Bayan
Uriyangkhadai
Uighur Arik Khaya
Jalairtai
Fan Wenhu (chinese)

to be continued...

Still working on the Mongols;)

**Marshal Murat** · 10-08-2003, 23:35

i got a sourcebook on clan members of Samurai by Stephen Turnbull
MORI
Mori Yoshiyasu
Mori Yoshinari
Mori Nagayoshi
Mori KAtsunaga
Mori Tadamasa
Mori Motonari
Mori Terumoto
Mori Hidemoto
Mori Takamasa
SHIMAZU
Shimazu Takahisa
Shimazu Yoshihisa
Shimazu Yoshihiro
Shimazu Iehisa
Shimazu (Matsudaira)Ieshia Tadatsune
Shimazu Norihisa
Just the families found in the book not all and the generals.

**TenkiSoratoti** · 10-10-2003, 00:07

*Bump*

TP

**Emp. Conralius** · 10-10-2003, 01:42

Barocca,

Not to get ahead of ourselves, but will there be any new units that you're going to add to the mix. Perhaps a unique unit fo r each faction as mention before?

**barocca** · 10-10-2003, 03:41

for the beta there will be a basic mix of standard units,
for mongols, same same,

but also in the pipeline are expanded campaigns featuring new units and some unique units for each faction,
hopefully we can balance them for online play.

**TenkiSoratoti** · 10-10-2003, 13:52

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (barocca @ Oct. 09 2003,21:41)]balance them for online play.

Can I help with that at all?

TP

**Vinsitor** · 10-10-2003, 16:28

GL barocca, I loved Shogun/MI, this mod seems very cool

**Marshal Murat** · 10-11-2003, 23:38

Any new info, if so please tell also when is the mod to come out to fill the void between now and the RTW mod.

**Marshal Murat** · 10-12-2003, 00:39

Also i would like to ask what the units are to be, the new ones, or is that to be a surprise?

**barocca** · 10-12-2003, 03:22

there will be new units and old units,
the plan is for a standard shogun era campaign, plus modified ones where factions will get unique units with unique abilities,
:-)

**Vinsitor** · 10-12-2003, 13:04

Sorry Barocca, there will be a MP compatibility?

**barocca** · 10-12-2003, 13:29

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Vinsitor @ Oct. 12 2003,07:04)]Sorry Barocca, there will be a MP compatibility?

i think so,
we are not adjusting the projectiles file, no real need to do so, thus this mod can stay alongside the current Medieval game and Vikings expansion,

cannot guarantee that 100% yet,
only have about 800 or so of the generals names input into game, will have to see what happens when i get past 1500 new names...

BTW this mod has been sent for Rough Beta testing to the STW mod Beta Team, lots of glitter and shine still to add,
but we know it's functional - now we just have to get it all refined and shiny :-)

**Vinsitor** · 10-12-2003, 13:33

A very good new, tnx Barocca :

PS: I hope there will be KENSAIS too

**barocca** · 10-12-2003, 13:42

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Vinsitor @ Oct. 12 2003,07:33)]PS: I hope there will be KENSAIS too :D

yep, they made it into the mod
:-)
along with some brand spanking new units too
:-)

**Vinsitor** · 10-12-2003, 13:59

Tnx Barocca

**Marshal Murat** · 10-12-2003, 17:23

What about the other weapons used by the samurai, like mace, it wasn't used much, but it worked. Also could you create a pavise arbaqiuesr of sorts, for sieges and such?
Also can we have the prisoner thing included, but i could represent heads take?

**Wellington** · 10-15-2003, 14:58

*** Bump ***

B,

Is it your intention/desire to include the STW tilesets (that match the STW maps) in your mod (in which case the user would have to have a unique 'MTW-specifically-for-STW' type installation. Alternately, or do you intend/wish to have the STW maps representing/converted to MTW tilesets - OR - do you wish to have both MTW and STW tilesets within your mod (far more difficult but, perhaps, possible)?

What's you preference?

Welly

**barocca** · 10-16-2003, 12:43

Hi Welly,

this first STW mod will be easiest using the MTW tiles,

a second "skin" mod is planned, reskinning MTW to Shogun,
the reskin would require a "made for Shogun" install of mtw, BUT that plan may yet come to nought, and is not going to be any time soon in any case.

If you think it is fairly easy to blend some of the STW tiles into MTW, then we can provide those tiles with the mod download,
if it is not easy to blend stw tiles into mtw, then the first option (use mtw tiles) is acceptable.

B.

**Bevan of Hertfordshire** · 10-18-2003, 21:24

Could you find a way to stick the video's in again or would that be to hard?

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