STW mod

[CaPeFeAr]

Thanks to Lord Krazy and Borraca, i present to you the no dachi for mtw. instead of a messy screenshot i put all the files you need to see them for yourself in the test section here. included is the actionpage and dity page to make them work. warning...before modifing, replacing, or removing any mtw file always make a copy. to see the no dachi you will be replacing the current peasant sprites.

this is by no means a shogun mod... the unit pics still look like peasants and the stats are still for peasents...but since making the unit graphics are very very very easy im sure we will see one soon

sry for duplicating threads but the images were slowing the old one down.

[Lord Krazy]

ok guys couldn't resist doing an easy one ashi yet with a lot of moves
this will get them going in MTW
it does seem to be as straight forward as it looks
these ones were in order.I just had to put the walk,run,idle shit


walk
9 41 36 208 53 255
15 42 0 110 26 156
15 43 28 9 55 55
8 45 142 108 159 158
run
9 40 139 160 157 205
14 40 102 62 130 106
14 41 185 160 214 205
9 43 0 158 19 207
idle
12 39 216 160 236 205
18 40 0 12 26 55
15 41 159 160 183 205
8 43 57 10 73 57
die
20 42 210 108 255 158
20 43 161 108 208 158
18 43 214 51 255 106
16 42 172 0 207 53
fight
15 42 159 207 190 255
14 42 55 208 92 255
14 43 109 108 140 158
12 42 75 8 100 60
charge
9 40 238 160 255 205
14 40 72 62 100 106
14 42 132 60 161 106
9 44 194 56 212 106
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These are the other fights
do not put them in the same file
I'll put names to them later for now I'll
just sort the actionpages
I can do the moks and nodachi
but cavalry is another process
and I can't find bow thingies on my
original install but then again it's
been thier a loooong time


fight2
21 41 21 160 62 206
18 42 33 59 70 106
14 42 73 108 107 158
12 41 0 57 31 106
fight3
17 42 135 4 168 57
23 42 209 0 255 49
26 43 28 108 71 158
18 43 102 5 133 58
fight4
14 38 163 59 192 106
20 39 64 160 100 206
21 40 94 208 129 255
18 41 192 207 220 255
fight5
18 40 105 160 137 205
16 41 0 209 34 255
13 42 131 207 157 255
12 41 222 207 255 255

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btw they look great
I hope this is useful info
I'll post the monks and nodachie later
for the sake of it, as it only takes a minute to do.
I can cut and paste the cavalry but this will take a bit longer

They may not be perfect perfect as I did not check every frame
but on initial inspection they are.

Stef if these sprites work in mtw then mtw sprites must work
in shogun you just have to reverse the process I guess

and stats?multiplayer department I think

So fear not CaPeFeAr
the Shogun mod is only around the corner
and Nag I hope your paying attention.

Regards

LK

[Lord Krazy]

btw what do diddys do
do day do dis or do day do dat
or do day do diddly
like the name implies
caus I never use them
because I don't know why I should.
If they do do something I have not
noticed yet I dumped all mine and
it did nothing except get rid
of hundred odd text files.
I mean do I need a folder full
of files dat do diddly

LK

[Swoosh So]

You guys arent planning to make a japan map avail for single play are ya?

[Lord Krazy]

LSam:I put them in Janni for the bow thing
do you want me to keep posting these things?
the unit icons arn't a problem seen as they are the same format for review_panel
The info_pic can be converted easy
and the same for the lbms
as for the map I'll pass on that
for the moment but I'm sure others won't

walk
17 40 1 1 27 47
23 41 1 210 43 254
19 42 29 1 74 47
8 44 27 49 52 101
run
19 43 66 103 95 151
21 41 212 210 254 254
14 44 112 1 151 49
9 45 1 154 24 207
idle
10 44 150 168 100 188
17 41 45 208 81 254
17 42 216 160 254 206
13 44 1 49 25 101
fight
18 44 54 49 101 101
19 44 26 154 77 206
20 45 153 1 205 58
19 46 120 196 161 254
die
38 43 1 103 64 152
26 43 100 118 168 166
17 44 145 60 205 116
14 47 207 1 254 68
charge
12 41 254 136 205 157
20 42 76 1 110 47
19 44 83 206 118 254
10 45 79 153 98 204
standing_shoot
19 60 103 51 141 116
16 59 163 190 209 254
14 57 207 70 254 134
13 55 170 118 203 182
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Damn I guess this is so easy I can't be a hero anymore


LK

[Stefan the Berserker]

Yay, thats why it is my Nightmare: It partly works in reverse. Idle, Walk and Running animation, no prob. But Die and fight doesn't work. I guess it is weapons.txt, because MTW-Grafic is used for more than just one Unit and Shogun can't interpret the original MTW-File... So I must edit them that way there's only one weapon...If that is the bug!

[Lord Krazy]

Ok some more
SamS


walk
10 39 119 160 138 206
18 40 226 160 255 203
17 41 45 24 0 54
9 42 61 208 80 255
run
10 40 40 208 59 255
15 41 22 108 51 152
16 42 187 209 217 255
8 44 156 58 174 108
idle
9 38 111 43 66 60
17 39 101 115 127 158
18 40 221 65 252 108
9 41 0 107 19 152
fight
16 42 160 110 192 158
14 42 109 208 146 255
14 43 33 56 64 106
12 42 0 154 25 206
die
9 40 0 208 38 255
16 41 27 160 86 206
15 42 163 0 219 56
12 44 221 0 255 63
charge
17 42 82 208 107 255
15 42 88 160 117 206
14 44 129 110 158 158
9 44 102 63 121 113
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These are the other fights for SamS
fight1
21 41 176 160 217 206
18 42 148 208 185 255
14 42 221 205 255 255
12 41 0 56 31 105
fight2
17 42 128 0 161 53
23 42 53 109 99 158
26 43 176 58 219 108
18 43 123 55 154 108
fight3
18 40 66 62 98 107
16 41 140 160 174 206
13 42 194 110 220 158
12 41 222 110 255 158

Monks

walk
11 53 120 136 144 196
16 55 65 0 94 60
17 55 227 196 255 255
13 54 67 133 91 192
run
12 57 176 131 201 194
15 57 0 64 28 125
15 56 0 129 35 190
11 54 146 136 174 195
idle
13 57 230 58 255 122
17 57 37 129 65 190
18 56 157 0 188 61
11 53 94 134 118 192
fight
21 48 173 63 224 120
28 49 190 0 255 56
23 48 162 197 225 255
20 47 30 64 69 122
die
26 45 114 198 159 253
26 43 258 130 203 190
30 41 122 63 71 126
26 42 124 63 181 121
charge
19 54 0 192 50 255
29 54 96 0 155 61
32 52 0 0 63 62
27 52 52 194 112 255

_

Arqu: I made up the reload bit but you won't notice unless you do

walk
10 41 63 53 86 100
16 41 140 149 179 195
16 42 95 102 132 149
12 44 20 0 41 53
run
11 40 101 162 55 189
19 40 19 55 61 100
19 42 255 55 206 94
14 43 43 0 66 51
idle
8 42 0 0 18 48
18 42 134 102 164 147
16 43 88 53 113 100
8 44 0 50 17 99
fight
18 41 158 52 204 101
18 41 113 0 159 51
21 42 68 0 111 51
22 44 212 0 255 53
die
30 49 0 184 43 255
46 50 45 191 103 256
45 51 0 102 55 158
28 54 138 197 175 255
charge
17 41 105 151 137 198
19 42 211 153 253 200
18 43 215 104 165 141
13 44 53 160 0 182
kneeling_shoot
12 44 115 53 154 100
10 44 161 0 210 50
8 45 57 102 93 158
15 45 181 143 209 201
standing_shoot
25 45 218 202 256 255
18 47 217 96 255 149
19 47 177 203 216 255
14 47 105 200 136 255
standing_reload
8 42 0 0 18 48
18 42 134 102 164 147
16 43 88 53 113 100
8 44 0 50 17 99
kneeling_reload
8 42 0 0 18 48
18 42 134 102 164 147
16 43 88 53 113 100
8 44 0 50 17 99




Thats it apart from cav and xbow
I'm not sure about xbow are they suposed
to be crap or did I loose_h.bif
or is that why Bar put them in
his other bif ? It's been along time
so forgive me for forgetting
WarLords next to see what I can scavange
If there is any thing else let me know.


Stef,
yes you must compile the files
in the format the game uses it helps
no end I still don't understand
why you want to do the reverse
when you can put the shogun
stuff in a better engine.
It's a kinda regressive aproche
that I'm not sure I could go along with.
It's also very possible that I'm
just missing the point
C ya
LK

[Lord Krazy]

last infantry to add unless you want ningas too
the koreans:
the odd descriptions are mine
they will not work in the game ok


kore:
walk
10 38 232 78 254 121
12 38 207 123 234 165
11 38 180 78 206 121
8 37 178 167 197 211
run
10 37 129 167 151 211
15 37 170 123 205 165
15 36 153 213 187 254
9 35 199 167 221 211
idle
8 38 49 163 68 203
6 38 236 123 254 165
3 37 2 212 16 254
7 37 160 78 178 121
die
17 38 18 205 58 254
21 37 212 30 254 76
22 37 167 30 210 76
23 38 30 113 73 161
charge hands up
11 47 1 108 24 161
15 47 105 111 140 161
15 46 26 62 60 111
9 44 96 57 122 109
standing_shoot
16 46 60 205 86 254
13 48 75 111 103 161
9 49 62 57 94 109
8 49 165 26 110 55
charge hands down
11 37 153 167 176 211
15 36 219 213 254 254
15 34 124 70 158 109
9 32 88 213 110 254
fight with hands
16 37 70 163 99 203
10 37 189 213 217 254
5 36 142 123 168 165
9 36 223 167 254 211
fight with spear
13 38 208 78 230 121
14 38 12 163 47 203
9 37 112 213 151 254
2 36 101 166 127 211
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LK

[Lord Krazy]

one of the new guys could not find this
so I bumped it for him
LK

[Lord Krazy]

bump

I'll zip the lot and put on the down loads later

LK

[Vlad The Impaler]

no-dachi in M:TW? this mean child games for any japanese martial arts practicant ( or whatever is called in english )

yuck; they have nothing to do with; not even fun:)

[Lord Krazy]

Its for a STW mod.It would be a bit difficult
without japaneese units

no dachi no gamey

I don't have anything against it
even if I did I could hardly refuse to help.
You don't have to use them if you don't like
them Vlad.I look on all addons as good things.
I spent a whole 10 minuets working this out
and all you have to say is yuck
is that japaneese
Anyway the people who asked for them
are the ones that count not the nay sayers;)

LK

[Vlad The Impaler]

usually at that time anything out of japan , for the samurais, seems to be a "yuck"
my opinion doesnt ignore ur work wich is always valuable for the only reason that is creative;
what i dont understand is the ideea;)
M:TW has his no-dachi
besides no-dachi is an XVI century japanese troop; i relly cant see how u can fit them in M:TW's era:)

[barocca]

firstly i'm going to pin this, at least until LK formats it into a document for download, and maybe even make it part of our collection of guides and just leave it here,
PLUS

here's a link to a discussion about a testmap i made,
test map discussion

[fodder]

I have converted the original shogun map to work in mtw, just trying to straighten out a few minor issues. Anyone interested? Should I post it when I'm done?

[barocca]

Fodder
definately,
that will save hours of converting, you may need to split the zip file into chunks so it can be uploaded here,
WinZip can do that for you,

alternately if you have a webspace and can upload it there then i can transfer the whole file here,

very much appreciated
barocca

[TosaInu]

:-)

[fodder]

have used winrar to split the files then zipped it. I am uploading the 9 parts now to the test section.

[Sakurai, Saionji]

Hey I am a beta tester but I havent heard much about the mod lately because i havent checked the forums lately. Is there a website for the mod?

[Lord Krazy]

Quote[/b] (Sakurai, Saionji @ Dec. 22 2002,12:47)]Hey I am a beta tester but I havent heard much about the mod lately because i havent checked the forums lately. Is there a website for the mod?

ye here

LK

[Major Robert Dump]

It's called Suspension of Disbelief. This is fiction, get it?

[FearofNC]

i dont know why lk gave up but i quit working on the stw mod when i relized that mtw shares graphics among units.... for instance....those no dachi look great but when u buy other units u can see that the images are corrupted.... the peasent folder is for all of the peasents...including urban milita ect...i think the mod is still possible...but it will take help from ca to make it work.... some of the things that would need to be changed cannot be done in txt files alone. however i wouldnt rule it out compleatly....the way the sprites are stored graphicly is the same... so whatever program ca is using to spit out diddy this and diddy that should be able to turn out mtw diddies for old splites...

to ca: your company put forth tremendous effort when making the original tw games... countless hours of graphic design already paid for. if you were to include the old versions on the expansion....just another era to choose from...viking/early/high/late/shogun/mi it would add a lot of value to your game.

[Lord Krazy]

I didn't know you gave up
But the reason I was and still am
interested is that it looks unlikely
CA are going to make an addon as you suggest
as they would need to add more unit graphics in the code.
This has always been our main mod intergration
problem.You can still have Shogun with more units
and a new engine.Which is not bad.
So please reconsider, as Rome looms around
the corner CA will have their hands full
it seems.This means one less project for me.
In turn, that leaves more time for me to
work on a Shogun mod.
LK

[FearofNC]

if that is the case then i would be glad to help...but im not sure what to do at this point. ive tried different ways but i always end up with units not working right. i can gather all the pieces needed...but i dont have a clue what to do with them :P

[Lord Krazy]

Quote[/b] (FearofNC @ Dec. 31 2002,01:44)]if that is the case then i would be glad to help...but im not sure what to do at this point. ive tried different ways but i always end up with units not working right. i can gather all the pieces needed...but i dont have a clue what to do with them :P

I'm sure someone can tell us
LK

[MiniKiller]

So is anyone going to make a japan map and only rig these mods to work on that map? i am confused

[Mr Frost]

NoDachi and Gallowglass
Sitting in a tree
Chopping eachother to bits like psychotic raving loonies
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[fodder]

Post-pub ramblings...

The japan map has been done and is available for d/l.
LK, are there working shogun units? I know nothing about unit mods. But I can work with the script and prod files.

Do the people out there want a shogun mod?

[shand994]

Yes we want a shogun MOd

[Lord Krazy]

Quote[/b] (fodder @ Jan. 30 2003,19:39)]Post-pub ramblings...

The japan map has been done and is available for d/l.
LK, are there working shogun units? I know nothing about unit mods. But I can work with the script and prod files.

Do the people out there want a shogun mod?

Yes

I'll post the ones that work.
I'v managed to delete all of them
(by mistake)so I'll have to do it again.
It will only take an hour.
There will be a need to replace other bifs.

fodder
I'll let you know when I'm finished.
When you sober up you can write the descriptions
and do the stats
(scripts and prods you said)

LK