XVI -XVII mod

[cegorach]

@YanTraken

I personally 'converted' several unbelivers to our couse Soon we will rule the world !

@Radier

Release... I lost almost 2 weeks because of the return to Poland and things connected to this...

I hope I will be ready in the last week of March.

[Radier]

A nice spring gift to us all Ceg.

And Yantraken guess now which country that will be my primary target, hehe (well at least if there are few husaria in it).

p.s I like the circassian name on it's infantry. I'm sure some circassian general confused two words when he shouted an order and what came from his mouth was: "Lhxwqwel Zeva...!!? ". Poor generals...

[YanTraken]

URAAAAAA..za pierestrojku!!!

and as always,this is only a project etc.

@Radier
I think that the worst enemy for the Winged Hussars was/is .....................the bird flu.They had so many feathers that this damned virus could took them for some kind of gigantic eagle or hawk.The same concern Turkish Dehli,Russian eehmm Tzar Bodyguard and even rich guys who worn feathers on their hats

[Radier]

Oh awesome graphics Yantraken! So now we have for western Europe, muslims and Russia, right?

[YanTraken]

I think so,but first Cegorach has to authorize them:)If He do so the only animations left will be Piechota Wybraniecka and Swedish skiers.They are infantry so they require a HUGE amount of normal move and acting animations....ughhhh....

[robert306gti]

didnt mean to describe them as knights. the book is clear on that. but they were more knight like... almost all other husars got less armour and used pistols as sec weapon and sword as primary whilst the polish husars got heavier and used brute force to break enemy forces... only a professional army can stand such an shock attack... but the book describes most things very shortly. the book also states that many battles in which sweden (and often the enemy too) declared themself winners was more or less draws. poland was for a long time swedens prime enemy after denmark. even during the war against russia Karl XII prioritized fighting the poles under some sachsan ruler before advancing into russia and catastrophy. karl XII broke swedens back fighting russia.

gustav II adolf was a great commander. dont think any other swedish king is close to him. after the war sweden relied more upon their own population... to small to be able to cover all long borders against enemys who allied against sweden. if sweden hadnt seized the oppurtunity to take part in the german war sweden would have no chance seizing the areas they did.

i will probably never play this game unless its released for a 3d engine... unfortunatly. i wont buy medieval total war 1.... too old game engine... but i have wondered why there isnt a game about th 30 year german war.

an interesting and scary thing is that from 15 years old you could be used in the army in the peasent army. the younger the easier to teach how to fight was the general idea. its a scary thought to see school boys fighting cannong, husars (just think how you as a 15 year old school boy would react to polish husars with thick armour, long lances and wings charging you), cannons, getting plague and dying in a country far away from home. no wonder the quality of swedens army was low before Gustav II Adolf.

[cegorach]

In fact Polish Hussars were using pistols when the lances were broken or when they were not required e.g. against swift Tatars...

The 3d version will be prepared from MTW 2, so it will take a while to make it - at least one year after the release of MTW 2...

Regards cegorach

[cegorach]

@YanTraken

Opróżnij proszę skrzynkę e-mailową, bo nic nie mogę przesłać !!

[cegorach]

Another thing to download.

It is the new set of event pictures, it is almost ready, but I need your help to check which ones are not changed yet - it is quite complicated to put them in the right place if you don't have much time to play the mod...

So please try them

http://rapidshare.de/files/14981658/...TURES.exe.html

If you have PMTW 1.0 of course...

Regards Cegorach

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Great work as usual guys. I see you've created new map pieces - if you can, please let me know how you did it so the bar wasn't always full despite the fact that there is only one unit in the stack, I'm having the same problem at the minute.

[YanTraken]

All done Cegorach.Just so many girls writes to me love letters uffff

Mabe You could add some icon "building in progress"that appears on province territory near town for expel.Some kind of hammer mabe just to show for player that something there is building.

[Radier]

All done Cegorach.Just so many girls writes to me love letters uffff

Haha yeah right! Worst appology ever...

[cegorach]

@BKB

I wish I knew it... at least it will conceal the sizes of their armies for now... I removed general's stars to make it harder and cause some paranoia - 'so many huge armies around me, what should I do ??? '.

@YanTraken

Right...

The hammer, good idea, but rather impossible to add.

Cegorach

P.S. Busy today in this forum

[YanTraken]

That`s True,I`m telling You!!!

@Cegorach
No general`s stars?Really?So how do we recognize the most experienced chief?
Stupid question:How to sign an alliance playing Poland with Turkey?Send them emissary or what?

[axel]

hi all cane somme one give me the links to download this nice mod and wot to put on first or should i waith first till the nice Update of this mod is done????

[axel]

hi all cane somme one give me the links to download this nice mod for MTW and wot to put on first or should i waith first till the nice Update of this mod is done????

[YanTraken]

Greetings!Here is the link for P&M v1.0
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=49031
it`s not far away(in download section on this forum:)
You can also get the new husaria animations and music themes for v.1.5 there.
A full new P&M v 1.5 is about to be released in the end of March:)

[axel]

so its better to waith till the end of march or cane you just put the new one over the 1.0 version??? or must i delete the 1.0 version and then put the 1.5 version on again?

[YanTraken]

@Axel
Do as You want Axel,but I think that the most sensible way would be to wait that few days for 1.5:)

@Cegorach
-I postulate to add such a campaign called "No time limit".It`s pity when You cant` build all the things You are able to,just because the time has ended:)
-I know it`s difficult but:clicking twice on province could open building or recruitment bar.
-is their`s some way to rebuild units that had taken losses in previous battles?

[axel]

ok will do mate may i ask one question if the 1.5 is out do i only have to download the 1.5 version and install this on my MTW to have to complete version mate????? i love the screenshots

[Ironside]

Winged Hussars didn't have much in common with knights except 3 things
- that they were cavalry,
- that they were wearing armour,
- and that they were using long lances, but those of the Husaria were hollow, which is often forgotten...

Unless I'm mistaken you forgot probably one of the main reasons why they are popularly refered to as knights.

They were nobility weren't they?

Although Polish nobility differs a bit from western Europeian nobility.

[YanTraken]

Although Polish nobility differs a bit from western Europeian nobility.

Yeap-they drunk much more and most of them didn`t worn those hairpieces with ribbons

@Axel
Honestly I don`t know.Cegorach is a technical expert here so He will anwser You.According to me it`ll be self-sufficient patch.
Please remember that You need MTW Viking Invasion!.....i think
Cheers!

[axel]

ok thx mate ill waith till Cegorach tels me how to do it

[robert306gti]

I think Sweden should be seriously hampered by low population. The only way sweden should be able to have any success is to use the tactic Gustav II Adolf used: use mercanaries and fincance the war with plunder and sacking towns and payment from other governments (france paid sweden in many wars). I guess Denmark should have the same problem.

[cegorach]

Unless I'm mistaken you forgot probably one of the main reasons why they are popularly refered to as knights.

They were nobility weren't they?

Although Polish nobility differs a bit from western Europeian nobility.

First good to see you here Ironside !

Next - they were nobility, but cavalrymen at that time ( in the whole Europe) were mainly from nobility... Besides Husaria consisted from Nobles, but not always and in fact quite many people in Poland were nobles - around 1 500 000 at that time - now around 30 000 000, but noone cares anymore

That is why I didn't mention it at all.

Regards Cegorach

[cegorach]

@Axel

For now play PMTW 1.0 + add the new upgrades - in this thread and download thread.

PMTW 1.5 will be a complete new install much bigger than 1.0 and it won't be possible to add this as a patch so you will need a fresh install of MTW VI

Generally it will give you:

4 campaigns including English Civil Wars on the map from Viking campaign,

- about 30 factions per campaign ( 4 in ECW),

- around 600 new units,

- new techtrees - about 80 new buildings,

- lots of new office titles - up to 20 per faction ( 20 for France),

- new historical battles and one historical campaign,

- lots of new animations including war wagons and ski troops,

- new music - not much for now,

- about 200 historical heroes,

- new portrait sets, icons etc,

- 3 new controll panels to choose from,

- a new map ( for now from MTW XL - thanks to VikingHorde),

- recreated crusades and jihads,

- many unique possibilities including vassal states, unions, religious tolerance/intolerance, military reforms, units using two missile weapons to choose from and much more,



LATER in the patch

- more unit animations,

- more than 10 new historical battles ( I am gathering data for some),

- most likely a completely new map,

- hopefully new battlefield maps including new castles,

- some short movies added before historical battles,

- much more new music,


Regards Cegorach

[axel]

hi mate thx for reply

[axel]

verry nice cant waith to play this nice mod mate

[YanTraken]

Question to Cegorach or scandinavians
How the ski troops were skiing with only one stick?Were they changing the side of belching from right to the left and so on,or did they use only one side for this action?

[Radier]

Wow the feature-list for 1.5 is unbelievable!! 600 new units wtf!!

Yantraken I don't know anything about our skitroops but it seems very illogical to use only one stick. Maybee Ironside or Robert will know.