EASTERN FACTIONS

**kataphraktoi** · 06-17-2004, 06:48

Same deal with all others.

The Wiz sez he wants to do stuff on the Parthians and such.

Start here

**kataphraktoi** · 06-17-2004, 07:20

Ok heres my first contribution.

Some osprey pics of Parthians...

heavy metal

Parthians

Whaddaya think?

**kataphraktoi** · 06-17-2004, 07:20

don't forget to dio "save target as"

**Degtyarev14.5** · 06-17-2004, 12:17

Hi kataphraktoi, and anyone else looking at the Eastern factions.

Sorry, I've been out of the scene these past few days. My computer went on strike (damn hypersensitive motherboard) and then I had a slug of long shifts at work. And they're not over yet, but I thought I'd pop my head up and let you know I'm still here.

I'll be back this way in a few days,
Until then,
A.

**Oleander Ardens** · 06-17-2004, 12:54

Are the Sarmantians included in the Eastern Factions?
As an Indo-iranian tribe dominating the Euroasian steppes from the Danube to the Wolga the should...

Anyway I will take them

**The Wizard** · 06-17-2004, 15:51

Already busy with the Parthians for Europa Barbarorum...

Just kind of wondering what a West Iranian cataphract did on the field, that's all.

~Wiz

**kataphraktoi** · 06-17-2004, 15:51

Sure Sarmatians are considered eastern and if ya got pics, u are MORE THAN WELCOME

Kat

**scooter_the_shooter** · 06-17-2004, 16:25

http://www.soldiers-russia.com/new_s...pire/pa1_r.JPG

http://www.soldiers-russia.com/new_s...empire/pa1.JPG

one link wont work copy and paste it plz

**ah_dut** · 06-17-2004, 17:32

nice

**The Wizard** · 06-17-2004, 18:42

Based on the well-known grafitti of a Parthian cataphract of the 2nd century AD, conical spangenhelm (to use the European term for a helmet constructed of four different pieces of metal riveted together), coat of combined mail and plates, and fully armoured charger.

~Wiz

**scooter_the_shooter** · 06-17-2004, 19:14

here you go more from google

http://images.google.com/images?....8&hl=en

http://images.google.com/images?....spell=1

hope it helps i used to have an ancient army sight but i cant find it now

**scooter_the_shooter** · 06-17-2004, 19:21

here is some stuff not from google

http://www.parthia.com/

hope it will help ya

**The Wizard** · 06-17-2004, 19:23

Just about the best you can get is just buy some Osprey books and other books on the Parthian/Indo-Iranian armies, and use them.

They provide a lot more information than the internet, I am sorry to report. :\

~Wiz

**scooter_the_shooter** · 06-17-2004, 19:39

yeah i even tried google came up with like 6 things and yahoo and every ancient sight i know they are hard i will stick with the romans. but pop in heere every once in a while too

**scooter_the_shooter** · 06-17-2004, 21:14

some units i found my book these are scythian

scythian warhammer calvary- these men are light calvary and carry a hammer that is pointed they are deadly advesaries indeed.

slaves- these are people that scythians conquered they reletively useless but VERY cheap with small maitnence cost.
poor morale
weak attack
no defence
tire easily
weak charge

slave skirmishers- these are the same as other slaves except they throw small javelins

scythian horse archers- these men are armed with bows have great aim and are deadly advesaries.
good attack
weak armor

these units may not be acurate i do not know how good this book is i will go to the library and get more soon.

**The Wizard** · 06-17-2004, 21:24

I really think this should be linked with Europa Barbarorum.... the historical part at least.

~Wiz

**scooter_the_shooter** · 06-17-2004, 21:30

i dont really get what the europa barborum thing is i read some of the thread and still dont get it

**The Wizard** · 06-17-2004, 21:58

It's an organisation of volunteers from the community which is giving an 'advice' of sorts to CA, having done research on the armies of the contemporary factions that will appear in RTW.

~Wiz

**scooter_the_shooter** · 06-17-2004, 22:54

my book also says they carried lasos to get people with so mayby put that in

**Dead Moroz** · 06-18-2004, 09:20

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (ceasar010 @ June 18 2004,00:14)]scythian warhammer calvary- these men are light calvary and carry a hammer that is pointed they are deadly advesaries indeed.

scythian horse archers- these men are armed with bows have great aim and are deadly advesaries.
good attack
weak armor

There were no separate types of units: archers, warhammerers, etc. Every Scythian warrior carried a complex of different arms (for different purposes).

**scooter_the_shooter** · 06-18-2004, 14:11

your right but we cant have one guy in a unit with an ax and another guy in the same unt with a hammer. it would be cool though

**ah_dut** · 06-18-2004, 17:04

nice pics all

**Steppe Merc** · 06-19-2004, 16:16

Getting the Enemies of Rome:Parthians, and the Sarmatian Osprey books. Will scan and post all pics once I've got them.

**kataphraktoi** · 06-19-2004, 16:26

Thanks steppe merc, really appreicated. I have a couple of esprey books but none related to the RTW...

Since Europa Barbarum is alreayd well set and organised, perhaps this whole RTW thread should be a threshing mill for historical discussion/debate/ideas while Europa Barbarum serves as a "formal" mouthpiece for RTW fans where they formally present their research???

Or should it kept as co-aligned historical discussion thread thingy??

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Kataphraktoi the heavily armoured Ghost.

**RisingSun** · 06-19-2004, 18:44

Well certainly we could use Europa Barbarorum's help with the mod, but I think that they should at least officially stay seperate.

**The Wizard** · 06-19-2004, 21:47

We should unify the two, Europa Barbarorum becoming the historical aid for the mod...

~Wiz

**scooter_the_shooter** · 06-19-2004, 22:46

i am with wiz on that

**kataphraktoi** · 06-20-2004, 07:47

Yeap, Agree with Wiz.

I think EB should take the lead in RTW MOD and its restoration to historical fidelity.

As I suggested, EB should be the formal mouthpiece while the HIST. TOPICS should be forums to throw around some ideas, information gathering and a forum for RTW historicity.

Whatever u guys want, just tell me what to co-ordinate, etc, etc, etc...