Campaignmap

**ShadesWolf** · 06-14-2004, 21:54

With the enlarged campaign, we have the following factions..

England
York
Scotland
Brittany
flanders
France
Swiss
Burgundy
Italy (Milan and Ventian)
HRE

Brittany will share the same early year units as France.

I would also assume that the Italian units will be similar.

I also assume that a pikemen from Scotland is similar to a Flemish pike, but they are both differnt to Swiss.

Looking at all of this, makes me think Iberia is a province to far, and get me out of having to create maps/ castles for the area. OK we will drop Iberia.

**Duke John** · 06-15-2004, 09:54

So we won't need this anymore:

Ok.

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]Hows about going the other way. We go back to a later period of the hundred years war and continue to include the Burgundian Wars.

Ok then, I thought you would like to see the entire HYW (well you still do), and I came across some images/manuscripts which inspired me alot into making some 14th century models. But ok, we're back to our initial concept.

**Ellesthyan** · 06-15-2004, 14:37

Darn, no Bertram Duguesclin...

**frogbeastegg** · 06-15-2004, 17:11

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Duke John @ June 08 2004,20:45)]Shall we contact one of the members who play Crusader Kings and ask them to make some screenshots of the European map. We will then have very quickly loads of historical provinces. I guess froggy can do that as payment for her Geisha smilies

I've only just found this thread and skim read it until I hit this; if you want CK screenies than just ask and give me somewhere to send them. I already have a map pieced together covering England, Wales, Scotland, France and Germany in full detail with the names visible.

If you need anything from CK, ask.

This mods sounds as if it may tempt me to play again, and that is no mean feat - I've never bothered with a mod and I have actually begun to hate MTW.

**Duke John** · 06-15-2004, 18:02

Thanks, froggy Could you then please show us some screens of the French/Flanders/Italian/Western part of HRE and Swiss regions, or in short the regions that are in the campmap screen that I showed some posts ago.

Thanks in advance

**frogbeastegg** · 06-15-2004, 18:16

I need hosting, I can't use the frog/arena/head hall spaces here...

**Duke John** · 06-15-2004, 18:20

Could you perhaps post it in the Arena, CK thread? I'll download them and then you can remove them. If that is not possible/too much of a hassle then send them to my email.

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]This mods sounds as if it may tempt me to play again, and that is no mean feat - I've never bothered with a mod and I have actually begun to hate MTW.

Modding doesn't earn me any money but these comments make it all worthwhile, thanks

**frogbeastegg** · 06-15-2004, 18:23

OK, I'll chop the huge image down to a reasonable size and post in a new topic in the arena for you, so I don't hit unsuspecting patrons with a massive image. If you need anything else PM me, I don't read the mod forums; I found this because of a link in one of the RTW threads on accuracy.

**Duke John** · 06-16-2004, 22:46

I have looked at the campmap and together with the Crusader King map, a historical map and your sketches I have come upon the grand total of 104 provinces This is gonna be one hell of a map

Now let's hope that M:TW supports 104, what it seems to do when I looked through the files of LMM.

Cheers, Duke John

**The Blind King of Bohemia** · 06-16-2004, 23:17

As far as i'm aware it is up to 107. However, it could be more except i heard sea regions are hardcoded to certain colours

**Duke John** · 06-16-2004, 23:57

In the LMM folders you will find Lookuptable.txt: 002-215 is reserved for landregions -> 214/2=107 regions... you are right

Anyway here's the layout of the European regions:

D. stands for Duchy
C. stands for County
V. stands I have no idea

I've used a historical map and Osprey maps for additional reference so I think this one is pretty accurate.

**The Blind King of Bohemia** · 06-17-2004, 00:00

DJ, do you think its possible to define the sea regions as land regions in order to gain more provinces?

**The Blind King of Bohemia** · 06-17-2004, 00:02

I beieve it wasmainly a Bishopric in Limoges, definetly at the time of when the Black prince sacked it in 1371(?) but i'm not sure in this mods timebase.

Loking good though

**Angelnessuno** · 06-17-2004, 08:38

DJ ....lombardy is the name of the region that include Milan and pavia
i suggest you to change Lombardy with ''Alessandria'' or
''Brescia''or ''Bergamo'' or ''Parma''
Turin is in the North and not after Genoa
anyway i post in the 4th page of this topic the map of italy ....i think that is a good idea to use the name of cities for the italian provinces it reflect the typical italian city-states feeling of the period

**Duke John** · 06-17-2004, 12:56

Good to hear you agreeing

Could you also post your opinion about wether the Italian citystates have about the right size/form?

Thanks, Duke John

**Angelnessuno** · 06-17-2004, 13:15

oky.....
i agree with your idea about the size/form of provinces the only thing that i think that you should change is the name of province :Lombardy because it is the name of a region while the other italian provinces are the name of cities for example with ''BERGAMO'' and turin is in the north- west upon genoa.....in the 4 page of this topic there is a map of italy
the cities most important are these ,you can choose between these :

DUCHY of MILAN
-Milan
-Alessandria
-Parma
-Cremona
-Como
REP. OF VENICE
-Venice
-Padova
-Verona
-Bergamo
-Brescia

other provinces :
Genoa
Turin

**Duke John** · 06-17-2004, 13:19

Ok, thanks. Then I can start working on the map...although I'm also testing something out that deals with rendering 100 animated soldiers

**Duke John** · 06-21-2004, 14:06

I have finished the campaign map

It has 97 provinces, a few less as orginally since England needed to miss a few to be able to fit castles in the regions.

ShadesWolf
I will polish it a bit, before I will upload it. But be assured that the campmap is no longer a problem.

Interface
I have said before that I want to give the game a more medieval feel. One of the changes will be the use of eleborate capitals at the start of a description. Below is a work-in-progress shot.

**The Blind King of Bohemia** · 06-21-2004, 16:01

Looks very good

**Angelnessuno** · 06-21-2004, 17:32

that's great

**Julius Caesar** · 06-22-2004, 01:56

Nice

**Duke John** · 06-23-2004, 10:24

I have given the MapTex a new texture based on the sea texture of the official maps. I think that it looks good enough for a first beta, so I'll now move on to other things.

ShadesWolf
Once you have sent me the final province name list I will write all the names on the map. They are on a seperate layer so it's no problem at all if they need to be changed in the future. The same counts for the font, if we want a different one or larger then it can be replaced relatively easily.

Cheers, Duke John

**Highlander X** · 06-23-2004, 11:09

damn nice, map guys. and the bottom corner there just makes it that much better, stained glass.

**ShadesWolf** · 06-24-2004, 07:31

Ive started to allocate Gov provinces and their associated dependant province, if you have any suggestions or comments please feel free to make them. I will attemp where possible to make these as historic as possible.

See page one of the thread for more detail.