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    I've been reading it avidly. Even though the daunting task of reading a week and halfs worth did make my eyes and head hurt. I don't often reply now as theres only so many ways I can say Brilliant I really liked so and so, and what happened here and here were really good plot twists etc. Plus I leave all the critiquing buisness to Ludens and Axeknight as they're a lot better at it than me.

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    ...i'm going to make a note, never stop reading this for two weeks then come back to catch up...my eyes hurt so much... must sleep

    But dispite having a lot of posts i had to go through this is still a pretty good read. the only problem is...i'm too tired to think of any comments worth while...(another note: don't start reading late at night and expect to be done anytime soon ) but, maybe a simple "good job" or "keep up the great work" will do? i hope so...cuz that's all i got

    now...sleep...

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    “Are you supposed to do that with your tongue?”

    “Not according to the Pope.
    Fantastic, loved that bit

    Zelda, thanks for the compliment, but I'm rubbish at critiquing. I'm just trying to add my thoughts, and trying to be funny but ending up just irritating.

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    Well you do it better than I can, and that is a fact.

    Anyway at least Froggy can't complain about not enough posts here anymore.

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    Yes, I've been reading it consistently as well - and I think there are probably quite a few others here who, like me, read but don't offer comments. The Org in general, and in particular the Mead Hall, seems to have quieted down somewhat, since PBM dropped off. Still, this is a good story, and it's kept my interest. I'm just not often predisposed to offer literary critique.

    You'd probably get more feedback if you also posted it on sites where literature is the primary focus (like fanfiction.net). A lot of people here will enjoy the stories, but stick to talking about the games.
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    I wasn't exactly complaining about a lack of posts; I was more curious to see if some of the 'old' readers who hadn't posted in a while were still here. None the less this has been fascinating.

    People actually get eyestrain while reading this? Believe it or not I write it, then read each bit about 3 times consecutively before I post it and once after posting it. Before I wrote that last part I read the whole thing from start to finish in one sitting. I must be lucky. :is glad:

    The issue of the story being hard to keep up with is one that I have pondered several times. Simply there's nothing I can do. My current estimate is 400 pages; at the current rate that is about another 3 months worth, making about half a year total. I can't really slow it down or it will take forever to finish. Also there is the problem of being forgetting things if the story drags on for too long.

    Ludens, the swinging perspective was the only way the scene could ever be done. I've known that for a long time; that's the scene I was talking about way back when they were in John's castle, the scene where I said I had to do dual POVs and get it working. Working it like most of the other scenes where you only get the odd thought from both characters wouldn't work; it had to be the in-depth version of both characters. I didn't find it to be a problem, reading or writing, but then I'm in a unique position here. I've seen some books I enjoyed do the same thing; I guess it depends on how you identify with the characters. I think we said before that we tend to work a bit differently as readers, didn’t we? You tend to latch on to one or two characters in great detail whereas I prefer to swing between several characters in slightly less detail, if I recall correctly.

    A literary forum, Kommodus? I've never found one; I did a few searches but I think I must have used the wrong term. :checks fanfiction.net: Hmm, this doesn't fit anywhere as it's not really fanfic of any variety.

    :yawns: I'm off before I go to sleep on my keyboard. To quickly reply to the assorted other comments even the occasional 'neat, keep going' is a good thing - it shows there is an interest. If the topic starts to resemble a graveyard I start thinking I scared my readers off. Maybe you can arrange to comment in shifts?
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    Froggy, please bundle all the chapters into a biiig book once you're done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
    A literary forum, Kommodus? I've never found one; I did a few searches but I think I must have used the wrong term. :checks fanfiction.net: Hmm, this doesn't fit anywhere as it's not really fanfic of any variety.
    Yes, but the good folks over at fanfiction.net thought of that and created a section for original fiction. I can't remember where it is but I know I've seen it.

    Of course, there may be sites that fit the "original fiction" category better than fanfiction.net, but that one is pretty popular.

    Correction: I just remembered, the original fiction in fanfiction.net was split out to a different website some time ago. I think it's originalfiction.net.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zelda12
    Plus I leave all the critiquing buisness to Ludens and Axeknight as they're a lot better at it than me.
    Thanks for the compliment, but it is not true. I haven't seen you criticize often, but when you do you always have a good point.

    Quote Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
    Ludens, the swinging perspective was the only way the scene could ever be done. I've known that for a long time; that's the scene I was talking about way back when they were in John's castle, the scene where I said I had to do dual POVs and get it working. Working it like most of the other scenes where you only get the odd thought from both characters wouldn't work; it had to be the in-depth version of both characters. I didn't find it to be a problem, reading or writing, but then I'm in a unique position here. I've seen some books I enjoyed do the same thing; I guess it depends on how you identify with the characters. I think we said before that we tend to work a bit differently as readers, didn’t we? You tend to latch on to one or two characters in great detail whereas I prefer to swing between several characters in slightly less detail, if I recall correctly.
    I am still not convinced that either that scene or the one in the abbey couldn't be done otherwise. I've actually been trying to redo them in my mind .

    Point is: I don't necessarily need few characters to enjoy a story, but I want to have them thoroughly separated. And the swinging perspective does not help that. It is also a standard thing literary nit-picks will complain about .

    Ugh, I am too tired to do any decent commenting. I will just say that I really liked the last part.

    :starts dreaming about a alternative version of the story where Fulk is locked up for ten years before he escapes and plots his bloody revenge on Trempwick:
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