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    So I decided to play a campaign using Denmark on Expert, starting in early....and it's been a walk in the park. I'm really not trying to gloat or anything but the cpu said that it was a harder setting than the one I had selected so I thought it would be fun to have a quaint little empire get run over by Germany and play the victim for once.

    This never happened. I've not had ONE war with Germany and as of last night it was 1292. I invaded Scotland, getting a foothold in the U.K. without war with England. When I did go to war with England it only lasted a few years, because I waited until France basically eradicated all their armies and the provinces were falling to rebels. I was allied with them when all they had was Northubria and I held all the U.K. besides. I had one HUGE lucky break with my war with France. I invaded 3 provinces at once and during one of the battles I killed their heirless king, thus ending our war without excommunication. I then proceeded to just sit, wait, and build a navy; taking provinces held by rebels as a result of civil war or uprisings only and withing 100 years I had all the U.K. and the entire coast line from Flanders to Aquitane, with $40,000 florins to boot. Spain finished moping up the Almohads and ran into Egypt who started pushing them back across N. Africa. With amazing consistency, Spanish civil wars started popping up allowing me to take Navarre, Aragon, Castile, and Granada without losing my alliance to Spain or disrupting my shipping routs. I sent troops into Algeria and Tunisia to help the beseiged Spanish hold Egypt off for maybe 20 years before Spain got it in their head to invade Castile. 3 years later Spain is off the map, Sicily holds the papacy so no excomm there, and I'm at war with Egypt in Granada. I push them back to Cyrencia, abandon Tunisia and Algeria to large rebel forces, then pull my troops back to Morocco. A year later Egypt is neutral, I hold all of Spain and the only land rout into Spain (Morrocco) and am at war with no one. Italy is falling to pieces and so I pick up Tolouse, and Burgandy and Germany is VERY busy with Turkey.

    so again not to sound arrogant, but is this all there is? I mean there hasn't been a single crisis in this campaign except Spains cute little attempt at Castile, (which due to the fact that for 20 years my soldiers had been dying in Africa to protect spain from Egypt was an uncommonly painfull stab in the back more than a real threat to my nation) And that ended in no time as my armies rolled up from Morocco, and wiped Spain off the face of the map in 3 years, with enough time to get back to Morocco and face the Egyptians who had just hacked through Tunisia and Algeria. Now, Turkey is the only other real power on the map and they can't get through the Germans. Germany and Italy vascillate back and forth over who gets Middle Europe and who will fight the Turks, and Russia is a lump of rebels fighting the Horde. I'm allied with everyone except Egypt, Turkey and Italy (which this late in the game is uncommon as the CPU turns on you when you become the most powerfull) and I have over $300,000 florins in the bank with an annual income of over $7,000. Maybe I should abandon Spain and just see what happens :)
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    seriously, the CPU isn't challenging at all.

    harder setting means nothing.

    trust me, the Danes are easy in early.

    also, sorry to burst your bubble but 300k in the bank in 1292 isn't much. 7k of profit is also not much.

    I've had 2.4 million in the bank by the start of high without trying too hard.

    now just tink of ways to outdo yourself and see how much territory you can grab how fast and how much money you can make how fast. how many factions can you destroy by Syrian assasins or Castillian Inquisitors?

    try different things and you'll enjoy yourself.

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    ........ that or you could try to play the holy roman empire expert in early XD ... or any age for that matter XD

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    There's already another identical thread to this. Maybe one of the mods should close this one off seeing as this has less replies than the other?

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    I dunno Katank. I agree that 300,000 ain't much, but considering how Denmark only starts with 1 province, and that province isn't exactly rich...

    Also, considering how it seems that his armies are fairly formidable, whcich they would need to be to cover his long border, they are probably taking up a great deal of his income. Add that to the fact that rebel provinces are usually low tech, it could take some time to really get the economy going.

    On the other hand, it seems that Lacker had remarkably good luck with his foreign policy. The French usually become a menace once they take out England. The death of an heirless king always helps expand the borders, eh?

    It also sounds like a fairly good balance of power has settled in Europe. Most of the games that I play result in one massive superpower which hacks and slashes its way to my borders before the tide turns. Overall, it sounds like he is doing a good job, but the circumstances of the game seemed to work to his favor.

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    still, they have the best opportunity to get sweden (very rich, with iron) and also cheap ships in the form of longboats).

    all the baltic provinces have nice trade and lithuania and livonia both have keeps which can be upgraded to shipyards fast.

    you can also blitz the HRE and cut a path to Venice as well as taking the British isles.

    you can Iberia is also nice and easy to take.

    300k by 1292 isn't great. 1 province doesn't mean that bad of a start.

    still, most provinces are internal ones and don't need much garrison. you shoudl get more than 7k per year.

    pure income should be around 50k and if you are cost conscious, your upkeep should never exceed 8-10k.

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