I meant that the eggies do not have horse archer IN EARLY if i'm not clear enough... for some reason it does seem that mamulek HA CAN be build in early at least on my vinilla MTW.... but even then their tech req is quiet steep (compare to turcoman horse espically) and u'll be pretty close to high when you get them anyway

Eggy have NOTHING on the turks in early... they have 2 extra unit... nubian spear and saharan cav... nubian spear is just a early push over for eggies and isn't much of a threat to the mass HAs... saharan cav are essential for the eggies to stand a realistic chance against the turks.... the turks have acess to a very rigged heavy cav unit that they can start building in 4 turns... and can start buidling horse archer right off the bat... while egyptian will need 2 turn just to start pumping archers.... (which will take 3 more turn to acturally get to the front line too....)

Obviously rich land isn't much of a advantage in the short run when ur army is vastly inferior and ur border is horriblly exposed..... when equally controled without considering rigged jedis or mass merc abuse the turks would have a huge advatnage against the egyptians in the first 10 turns or so ..... (more than enough to sweep them out of the middle east no matter what approach you use)

Egyptian only gets going after they kill the turks.... adn even then they are not as good as the turks can be in early .