What i saw in a huge movie

[Ar7]

Before this day i haven't watched any movies about RTW or read a lot of info. I knew it was a stunning game a thus did not want to get myself too excited So if any of what i say has been told then bare with me.

Anyway, i downloaded a long movie, that introduced RTW, campaign map, battle map, units etc.

Watching this great gift of fortune i noticed that there is almost no such thing as a province. In this demo a Roman army defeated the Gauls and the Romans got a small territory that was previously occupied by the barbarians, but it was hardly a province. It had no borders, no towns, nothing, just a small piece of land on the foot steps of mountains.

Secondly the campaign map totally reflects the reality. Let's say there is a small passage surrounded by mountains. If you move your army into the passage, the battle will take place there. If you conquer the area you can build a fort there and nobody will get through the passage without having to destroy the fort first.

You can build a fort anywhere on the map, no more one town per province, this adds LOADS of strategy, i just hope the AI will know where to build them.

The siege equipment is built before the battle begins, you may choose what to build at the start.

Diplomacy is huge, you can negotiate treaties with loads of different proposals.

There are no fixed turn as in MTW. In the demo i saw that one army was ordered to attack a town. After that the assassin killed a general, that army was defeated and only then the town was attacked.

This video came as a shock to me and exacly what i was afraid of, i now want to play RTW bad

[RisingSun]

Do tell where we can get this video...

[Leet Eriksson]

Interesting....but...this is what worries me:

Quote[/b] ]There are no fixed turn as in MTW. In the demo i saw that one army was ordered to attack a town. After that the assassin killed a general, that army was defeated and only then the town was attacked.

You indicating the game is realtime or something?

[alman9898]

There are turns still. ONly difference is that you end the turn after the battles are fought not before.

[Aelwyn]

He is talking about the "RomeVid.avi" video most if not all of us have seen. Its the 16 minute video explaining how the whole game works. There are specific turns, it just seemed to me that certain actions were performed quicker, because of, maybe, speed. Then other actions were performed.

[Sir Robin]

Actually that small area displayed after the battle was how far the Julii army could still move.

There are still provinces of a sort. However now they are based around a centralized city. So you can freely move around the region without having to attack the city or the local army when you enter their "region."

This is still a dramatic improvement over STW and MTW. However it is not as great as we had hoped and early hints led many to believe.

When you look at the strategic insert map you can still see the borders of these "regions." Only now you have more freedom of strategic movement. This will allow pincer attacks and flanking defensives which will add a whole new level of challenge to the game.

[Jacque Schtrapp]

Quote[/b] (Sir Robin @ July 23 2004,22:07)]Actually that small area displayed after the battle was how far the Julii army could still move.

There are still provinces of a sort. However now they are based around a centralized city. So you can freely move around the region without having to attack the city or the local army when you enter their "region."

This is still a dramatic improvement over STW and MTW. However it is not as great as we had hoped and early hints led many to believe.

When you look at the strategic insert map you can still see the borders of these "regions." Only now you have more freedom of strategic movement. This will allow pincer attacks and flanking defensives which will add a whole new level of challenge to the game.

Aye, kind of makes me wonder how attrition will work. If you occupied an enemy province in MTW you either fought a battle or began a siege during which you would lose troops over time. In RTW if you can enter an enemy province without attacking... how will attrition come into play?

[Ar7]

RisingSun, i took the movie from here http://www.apg88.com/other/RomeVid.avi

The new RTW system sort of reminds of the Heroes of might and magic series. There every hero or in our case an army or an agent had a distance where they could move. Then you chose to move them and could control who fights first or fights who. Then when they had no movement left you ended your turn. I think RTW works the same or atleast resembles it.

Which in it's turn made me think why can't we have a MP game, Heroes was playable online and had no problems, a similar system could be done with RTW. People say it would be time consuming....i don't know about that.

About attrition. I remember i read something about supply lines. There was a chance of cutting an army off and starving it. Though this info ain't solid, it was long ago and may not have made to the game.

[Inuyasha12]

The link isn't working for me??

[Sir Robin]

It is also available at totalwar.org in the downloads section of the forum.

You have to register to be able to get to that section though.

[EX_Outlaw]

i really like those spartan hopliets


i cant wait for this game to come out its gonna drive me to drink

[Colovion]

you can also find it here

[bighairyman]

Quote[/b] (Sir Robin @ July 24 2004,08:04)]It is also available at totalwar.org in the downloads section of the forum.

You have to register to be able to get to that section though.

did you meant someother site, because in order to post here, you NEED to register at the org

oof-topic, but YAY, my 600th post

[Inuyasha12]

Thanks , im downloading as i write, i can't wait. But im non-dsl so i must wait.

[Sir Robin]

Oops... Meant legiontotalwar.com