The Official Summerslam 2004 Thread

[Efrem Da King]

Quote[/b] ]You.... Me.... Summerslam

Anyone have preditcions for matches/outcomes off summerslam?

[shakaka36]

i havnt been watchign for the last few weeks, whats the card?

[Efrem Da King]

Only matches mad, and they were made on the latest smackdown are



THE UNDERTAKER Vs JBL for the WWE championship.


And


EDDIE GUERRO VS KURT ANGLE

[shakaka36]

the dead man's been gathering steam, but im not sure if hell win, i think ifthey want to legitimize JBL as maineventer worthy of the title, hell keep it this time around.

as for Guerrero Angle, Angle's been out of commision for awhile and guerrero's the fan favourite, i'd say since i dont think they'll be giving the title match to the fan favourite, they'll have to give this one to Guerrero.

[Ronin]

i predict that HBK comes back and kicks Kane´s ass for what he did to him

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Will the dudleys be there? I watched the edge and orton match on Bottom line this morning which was crap imo. Liked vince firing angle from his postion that was funny

[Efrem Da King]

Dudleys will almost certainly be there. I recon the Deadman will win.


The people on the Wallpaper that I can see clearly are:


The Big Show, Rey Mysterio, The Undertaker, Booker Tee, THe dudleys, Eddie Guerro and someone who I think is JBl.

I have no clue who the other 5 people are. But Chris Benoui, HHH, Kane and Shawn michaels are not among them. So it is clear to me that there will be a Raw Wall paper as well. The Ad is hilarious.

[Fragony]

Hmmmm wrestling, homo-erotic violence extravaganza.

well each to it's own

[Muneyoshi]

Quote[/b] (Efrem Da King @ July 24 2004,01:07)]The people on the Wallpaper that I can see clearly are:


The Big Show, Rey Mysterio, The Undertaker, Booker Tee, THe dudleys, Eddie Guerro and someone who I think is JBl.

I have no clue who the other 5 people are. But Chris Benoui, HHH, Kane and Shawn michaels are not among them. So it is clear to me that there will be a Raw Wall paper as well. The Ad is hilarious.

Taker, Booker, Dudleys, Batista, Eddie, Benoit, RVD (Im almost certain), Benoit (Again), Bubba Ray Dudley, and Jeff Hardy

I think its Taker over JBL and prolly Eddie over Angle though Angle could very well win as well by cheating for the heel pop.

Also the 2 Raw main evens for SS are supposed to be Orton vs Benoit for title and HHH vs Eugene. Im hoping for a Orton face turn and fued with Evolution. Orton vs HHH or Batista would be pretty could (Batista to start out with, then HHH.) Flair sucks imo, always has. All charisma, same match over and over, no skill, etc. etc.

Oh and Cena vs Booker is one of the matches too I think, just basing that off of SD this week. Cena to win if it is one.

[shakaka36]

i will never stop hoping for a HHH HBK reunion, i know it wont happen, but i hope for it all the same........

and for that matter a HHH and X-Pac reunion, or a HHH and the new age outlaws reunion..... or pretty much an all round DX reunion.....

and also a HHH and Stephanie reunion, i liked the whole evil husband and wife thing

[shakaka36]

Flair sucks imo, always has. All charisma, same match over and over, no skill, etc. etc.



stop talking and run away before i hit you over the head with a shovel for sladering one fo the greatest of all time


as for evolution im hoping for Orton to win the title and then for the group to turn on HHH

[Efrem Da King]

Yeah if it realy is orton vs benoin Orton will win.

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I must have watched flair for 12 or something years and he makes me laugh man, always has. He is more entertaining than most of them. What the hell has happened to Guerrero? Challenging for big titles? He is so awful and about as entertaining as a graveyard

[Muneyoshi]

I never had any probs with Flair, I tolerated him. Until he decided to bash Bret Hart (As well as Mick and a few other well respected wrestlers). And also when he freaked out on an interviewer for using the terms heel and face. Hes not even a has been. He deserves no respect. Hogan, Hogan deserves respect despite the fact he was never really talented in the ring simply because of the monster WWE and wrestling in general has become large part due to him. Flair doesnt.

[Kraellin]

oh. wrestling. and here i thought this was a political thread about the coming elections in nov. my bad ;)

K.

[Efrem Da King]

Quote[/b] (The Blind King of Bohemia @ July 24 2004,18:51)]I must have watched flair for 12 or something years and he makes me laugh man, always has. He is more entertaining than most of them. What the hell has happened to Guerrero? Challenging for big titles? He is so awful and about as entertaining as a graveyard

HAH

Flair sux. No talent hack. He called Mick Foley A glorified stuntman. He deserves no respect at all.



LATINO HEAT on the other hand... HE ROX


How can you have seen the adds for him and chavo and not laugh...

Eddie: Chavo you stole the babies crib??

Chavo: I had to take something Uncle Eddie, you stole everything else.

Not to mention they way he cheats is [extremely] hilarious.

VIVA MI RASA HOLMES



@Kraillin LOL do you not read the thread descriptions???

[shakaka36]

yes flair is arrogant but he is one of the most talented proffessional wrestlers alive, not to mention foley himself will tell you he thinks flair said those things becuase flair wants a match with foley.


remeber the eddie chavo ad on the golf course, that was so funny

[Muneyoshi]

Do me a favour and watch a dozen sepperate matches of his vs various opponents. Its the same match over and over and over and over. He isnt talented at all. He is horrible, yet he has the balls to claim Bret Hart/Mick/etc. had no talent? Flair is a self proclaimed legend, unlike the true legends (Bret, Taker, Mick, Sting, The Giant, Hulk, Jushin Liger, Dynamite Kid. I could go on for days) who are legends because thats what the FANS called them not themselves. True legends dont need to call themselves legends, they just are.

[shakaka36]

*has seen about a hundred ric flair matches*

[Muneyoshi]

Havent paid much attention then have ya? He has the same spots, the same bumps, the same everything (except opponent) every time.

[Efrem Da King]

WOOOH



But really flair does have an identical match each time. Whats with the going to the top rope and getting pushed off EVERY SINGLE MATCH.

[Leo]

Flair sucks.

End of argument.

[Muneyoshi]

Oh and btw, I think Dudleys are vs Paul London and Billy Kidman for the titles

[Efrem Da King]

I can't stand Paul london and Billy kidman Whatever happened to good tag teams, like scoty too hotty and rakishi? and obvioulsy Charli haus and Rico accompanied by miss jackie.



Shooting star press has made its way onto my [very bad] finishing moves list. Along side such classics as the FU and Clothesline from hell and edges spear.

My fav finishers being, FROG SPLASH Tombstone Piledriver Canes choke slam (he just does it sooo well), Battista bomb, Pedigree, Crippler Crossface, the duddley dog, Stone COld stunner, rock bottom, Golderbergs spear, F5, Green Mist and of course the hardest move to do in the game THE TIGER BOMB

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I think you being unfair to flair man. He is legend with Foley, funk, hart, hogan, 'taker, sting, Macho man, rick rude and many others. He has been wrestling for years and deserves respect and that running down of other wrestlers i would take with a pinch of salt.

Bret hart had alot of the same moves, the elbow of the middle rope, the russian legsweep, sharpshooter, and the snap suplex. I watched him for years and i would never run him down, his match with davey boy smith at summerslam 92, wrestlemania 12 vs Michaels and austin at wrestlemania 13 was fantastic but wrestlers work to a script and thats why the matches will look the same. Some of the recent matches i have watched have been awful compared to the great years(88-91 and 96-99) some of the matches round then were really, really good.
The only wreslers that are new and have talent are Batista and i like ultimo dragon and ray mysterio but i watched them when they were in wcw, and really thats it (I'm not putting the rock, HHH and Booker) there and i use to like bradshaw and kane when they were mean, violent guys, what the hell has happened man The dead man is sad now. Where is the evil one we all know and love, like when he chucked foley of an 18 foot cell Ahh i miss those days

People who were really talented like the dudleys, Taz, Goldberg and raven were/have been wasted. Watch the old wcw and ecw and you will get what i'm saying.

The tag teams i miss were the new age outlaw, the acolytes and the dudleys when they would put anyone and i mean anyone through a table( see old may young an 80 year old to see where i'm coming from)

I'm not sure about london but kidman has talent for many years, lets just hope he goes table first at summerslam though

[Muneyoshi]

Unlike Flair, true legends didnt always have to get their spots in and their matches werent the same even when they did. Flair has never been more then an amateur with charisma, that his how he got so big. Im not sure about the rest of you, but I prefer good wrestling over a good interview. Bret, Owen, Terry Funk, neither of them were exactly mic masters but have put on some of the best matches ever.

Oh and so everyone knows, despite this is a WWE thread, Jeff Hardy has/is signed a contract with NWATNA so you'll be able to watch him every Friday on Fox Sports Net. I think he could of been great, he just had his priorities in the wrong area. I dont know why he just wont go to rehab, thats all he needs to do to re-sign with WWE. Supposedly hes not the same Jeff Hardy he used to be though, just have to see in TNA.

[shakaka36]

i gues we will have to agree to disagree on the issue of flair, after all i despise the dudley boyz, yet i know lots of people who liek them, its all opinion

as for jeff hardy, i hope hes got his priorities sorted out, and since their is no TNA broadcast in Norway, i will be unabel to see him

[King Edward]

Quote[/b] (Efrem Da King @ July 26 2004,22:47)]My fav finishers being, FROG SPLASH Tombstone Piledriver Canes choke slam (he just does it sooo well), Battista bomb, Pedigree, Crippler Crossface, the duddley dog, Stone COld stunner, rock bottom, Golderbergs spear, F5, Green Mist and of course the hardest move to do in the game THE TIGER BOMB

I cant Believe you left out THE most Electrifying move in Sports Entertainmnrt

Legends of Wrestling... IT DOESNT MATTER WHO THE LEGENDS OF WRESTLING ARE

One day the Great one will return to Layeth the Smacketh down on all their candy Asses

IF YA SMMMEEEELLLLLLL WHAT THE ROCK, IS COOKING

[Leo]

Quote[/b] (King Edward @ July 27 2004,10:23)]

Quote[/b] (Efrem Da King @ July 26 2004,22:47)]My fav finishers being, FROG SPLASH Tombstone Piledriver Canes choke slam (he just does it sooo well), Battista bomb, Pedigree, Crippler Crossface, the duddley dog, Stone COld stunner, rock bottom, Golderbergs spear, F5, Green Mist and of course the hardest move to do in the game THE TIGER BOMB

I cant Believe you left out THE most Electrifying move in Sports Entertainmnrt

Legends of Wrestling... IT DOESNT MATTER WHO THE LEGENDS OF WRESTLING ARE

One day the Great one will return to Layeth the Smacketh down on all their candy Asses

IF YA SMMMEEEELLLLLLL WHAT THE ROCK, IS COOKING

The rock bottom is there, I hope you don't mean the people's ellbow. It sucks, almost just as much as Hogans leg drop did.

Best finishers are the rock bottom and, although I don't like Austin, the Stone Cold Stunner.

@BKB: Goldberg had talent? When?

One last word on Flair:
I never liked him. He is slow, he has about three moves, he is boring. I don't see where one can see him having charisma. I miss watching wrestling sometimes, 'cause it's no longer on TV here, but not having to see Flair is a bright spot.

[shakaka36]

my fav finishers would have to be: the sweet chin music, the tombstone, and the sharpshooter.

as for sumerslam, now that the orton benoit match is assured, and thus so is a split in evolution logical, so what do you see as happening: orton splitting from the group, or the group turning on HHH, i myself simply cant make a decision