The Masons

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IMHO
You do know that there has never ever, been any proof of any of this don't you? I do hope you all realise this?

There has only ever been opinions, with out fact.

In the Ancient, days of the ealry Medieval period, all the different trades would form guilds. To protect themselves from the very marketing ploy that Longshanks mentioned.
There is also the apprentises', a hang over of this, is in the marching in Northern Ireland.
These guilds would form to protect local industry before the days when governments would regulate with any effectiveness that we would know today.
It was also to protect a town or area, eg: providing troops to local forces. That way people who had an interest in the area would be the ones defending it. note farmers where also in this.
But they where still nearly always leed by a noble.

ETC.... The 'freemasons' guild were free men, or fydman, that were masons(old English word meaning a brickie or Brick layer).

Same as Blacksmiths guilds. Or Fish Mongers ( old English meaning someone who sells fish) guilds, boat builders guild.

The next problem you face is, You really think a small time bunch of rock hounds, had power over the Nobles?? For the last 1000years?
That in itself would be a feat worthy of taking over the universe.

Sorry guys it don't add up. Think around the Problem.
Look at what you are really saying.
The freemasons guild which is the one that usually gets balled over for this, is actually the English Freemasons guild, it is not Scottish in origin.
The other funny thing about this, is freemasons are an Anglo-Celtic tradition.
Seems a little funny, that a communist imspired revoluton in Russia is now being blamed upon the masons.
Espeically if you knew the history of that revolution.

I have actually been to freemason meetings when i was young, with my uncle. it is no more than a drinking club, like the Rotary or lions organisations that try and help the community. Old fellas sit around and talk about doing nice things for people, kinda makes me sick.
Secert hand shakes? Yes they have them. Secert agendas? i have no idea, as they would be secert.

But lets be real here, the history Channel, and discovery are hardly concise. They are after all always opinions more than fact.

You really think, that the Masons, can do so much of what is claimed by people, and still be so open? Espeically with a large membership like they have?
Sorry guys, to many conspiracy theories here. No fact, and overly opinionated.

I would say that you are more likely to have the thing you are looking for in the media, not in a club based on old rock hounds.

Actually, kind of yes. The first recorded Mason organization was created in Scotland and that was after the remnants of the Templars fled France and the continent to escape the fate of their brethren. But the role of the escaped Templars is kinda obscure in the creation of the first Mason Order, but suffice to say it is more or less documented.

So the Templars now started them? what in ~1242AD or what ever after the persecutions?
Hmmm what about the Masons that exsited before then?
Lots of books? Yes, but hardly any facts.
It is very funny, if you guys where around in the Medieval and the 500 years around that period, you guys would be hunting witches.
Still on hersay, and still without a thread of evidence.
It really does disappoint me that humanity in all our glory, are still so much 'little people' after even 1000 years.
Next you lot will be reading your start signs in the local newspaper.

how about a witch hunt next saturday night?

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PS: I deleted this by mistake,

The above is like all the books on how the Jews control all the banking in the world.
It is said by people who are ignorant of how the Ecnomic system works, and how banking works.
If you understood how each of these work, you would realise no one group can control it, it's impossible.
The only way you can control any of this, is if you can control the thoughts of several billion people all at once, and all the time.

And if you ahve that sort of power, why would you need people? Why would you need democracy? Or choice? or different companies?

Which is exactly what you are saying about the Masons.

fenir