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    2) Caught the French king with only his escort, and a unit of archers.
    However, even though I had numerous more men (300) Everyone
    started to rout after just taking a few losses. Had quality troops with
    valour points (1-3) General valour 3. Why did this happen? French
    king did have high valour number (5-6), or was it his dread number,
    which was also high? Maybe its a bug? As I see it, I don't care how
    experienced you are, with those kind of odds you are going down.
    Here's a list of morale hits. A cav charge by heavy cavalry into low quality infantry (that lacks valor) can rout them instantly (things like peasants, urban militia, etc). That immediately adds a huge morale penalty to all of your units which are in proximity. Throw in your units taking archer fire and the fact that any unit engaged with that French king is likely to be losing badly and you have a chain rout in the works.

    The biggest hit will likely come from routing friends, though. When you're in a situation like that, take your toughest unit and have him engage the king initially, then start piling troops on its flank/rear. It would also help to immediately rout his archers.

    The list:

    Disordered or Loose Formation
    units in loose formation or in disorderd ranks suffer -2 moral

    Outnumberd By Enemy Forces
    2 to 1 Suffer -4 moral
    10 to 1 Suffer as large as -12
    Also factored is quality and speed of enemy too.

    Threats To Flanks
    -2 moral penalty if one flank is threatened
    -6 moral penalty if 2 flanks or 1 flank and rear is threatened
    -4 moral penalty if charged into flank
    -6 moral penalty if infantry is charged into flank by calvery
    -8 moral penalty if hidden unit is charged into flank

    Generals Death
    -8 moral penalty
    then only -2 moral penaly after a few secounds
    (dosen't apply to highly disciplined units)

    Routing Friends
    up to -12 moral penalty if 2 units are routed
    (only applys to units of equal or higher level of others)

    Casualties
    10% casualty rate suffer -2 moral
    50% casualty rate suffer -8 moral
    80% and higher casualty rate suffer -12 moral

    Taking Enemy Fire
    being shot at by missle suffer -2 moral
    plus additonal -4 moral if shot at by weapons
    that create fear

    Skirmishing
    missle units being pursued long distances as fast as they are suffer -6 moral
    Moral drops by another -6 moral
    if skirmishers run out of ammo

    Fatigue
    Very tired units suffer -3 moral
    Exahsted units suffer -6 moral
    Completely Exahsted units suffer -8 moral

    Losing
    up to -8 moral loss depending on how badly your lossing
    For infantry losing to calvery another -6 moral is possible

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    It may have been all that was mention before and if your soldiers where tired too, that counts towards routing
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