Elephants in game

[crazyviking03]

I was wondering to my self, since the last major use of elephants in Roman warfare was in the war between Ceaser and Pompey (during the fighting in Africa), this means that elephants will be involved in the entire (most) span of this game. How does everyone feel this will affect gameplay? Multiplayer? All I am saying is that no matter what period or time slot you start you campaign at (if this is even an option) and no matter what in multiplayer, elephants will always be available. I just dont want to be constantly fighting a peasant uprising that looks like it brought the whole circus with it, and I dont want to have to deal with elephant whores in multi, like the catapult whores in mtw. Your thoughts and opinions?

P.S. dont get me wrong, I cant wait to use elephants, I just hope they are not over powered or over used to the point where I no longer enjoy them.

[CBR]

I dont mind elephants but it does depend on cost and stats.

If there are no restrictions for a specific unittype you will always see some who tries to buy 20 of them. I dont think that can avoided but it would be newbies/noobs who does that. As long as its proper balanced regular players wouldnt use it.

When people use loads of artillery in MTW it doesnt cause that big problems IMO, but some people panic and lose because they charge straight away


CBR

[jimmyM]

I think there'll be sufficient counter units - light infantry were historically effective against them, so ... elephants seem to be mostly anti-heavy infantry and cavalry troops. If CA want a "balanced" "historical" game they wont be practical to use as a standalone unit (i think special troops were designated as "elephant escorts"..stopped them losing their heads - as they were wont to do.)
Then of course there is the special historical unit used by every ancient faction worth their salts ... THE PINK SUGAR MOUSE SWARM one glimpse of these little beggars and the ol' 'nellyphants are running shrieking to their mothers.. ~:p

[Orda Khan]

I can understand your concerns...they mirror mine. CA has introduced some very 'iffy' units that could lead to some very frustrating MP games.
Pigs, heads, elephants.....

.....Orda

[CBR]

You forgot the dogs..


CBR

[Steppe Merc]

I have no problem with elephants, and can't wait to play with and against them. It's the other animals I don't like. But I think that horse javileeners would be good against them. Pepper with javilens, run away and repeat.

[LeeJackson]

Just have the flaming pigs. I remember a while back that the RTW people said you would be able to unleash flaming pigs at the elephants to scare them. Flaming pigs... I can't wait.

[Leet Eriksson]

artillery can kill elephants too...

[Orda Khan]

I have no problem with elephants, and can't wait to play with and against them. It's the other animals I don't like. But I think that horse javileeners would be good against them. Pepper with javilens, run away and repeat.

I have no problem with elephants either........but when we see them in every army in every game, I will then.

Yes CBR...the dogs
Ok I've been holding off with this for fear of being called sad but what the hell, here goes.
Black and tan Rottweillers ???????!!!!!!!!!!!! The Alaunt found in Britain and the Mollossus, more familiar to the Romans were fawn or brindle animals. Looks like CA got their ideas from watching Conan the barbarian

.....Orda

[Steppe Merc]

Looks like CA got their ideas from watching Conan the barbarian

I think we've figured that out a long time ago.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I cant wait to use elephants, I just hope they are not over powered.

Well spoken and 'nuff said.

[Skomatth]

If elephants were kept historical it would be no problem. I was under the impression that it was very hard to procure elephants and armies would only have around 8. ONe unit in RTW looks like it has 20.

[Marshal Murat]

Actually they probably trained 5, and then made a large group of them.
And the elephant arm of some armies was pretty large.

[CrackedAxe]

I am sooo gonna perfect my 20 elephant 'stomp and swipe' MP rush.

[crazyviking03]

I wonder, the war elephants have an archer or two on top of them. But since elephant units only have like 8 elephants, is there even a point to use them as missile unit? I'd rather just charge madly into the fray.