Janissaries. A question.

[Morgan Frydman]

Hi, I'm new here. Thanks for reading my post.

Just to let you know (if you're at all interested) I bought Medieval TW about a year ago but rarely played it and then I decided to buy Viking Invasion (just for the hell of it) and now I can't stop playing it.

Anyway, I've been playing a lot of custom battles recently. Mainly, some Christian alliance vs Muslim Alliance - just because I like to replay the crusades.

So I keep setting up my Christian army as defenders and muslims as attackers. I usually have 3 Armies of Turks, with a total of about 6 Janissary corps (as well as other units). Now no matter what units I use, what formation I use, I can't defeat the Janissaries, and hence the Turks.
I've tried charging with Lancers and then melees with dismounted Gothic knights and all sorts of things, but they just don't stop coming. I've tried everything. So my question is, how do you stop Janissaries? Note: I put Janissary valour/weapon/armour to at least 2 or 3 on most of them, some I use no armour for.
I'm a novice at M:TW so I may be using the wrong units to attack them.

As a side effect to this problem, when playing an actual campaign I get scared to go anywhere near the Turks unless they're really weak.

[Kagetora]

If your playing against Jannisary Heavy Inafantry, than you will get slaughtered, they are probably the best unit in the game. Go to the guide section and look at the unit guides about the jannisaries and other units, read carefully though, personally I'd use Chivalric or Gothic foot knights to beat them, however those units will tire quickly in the desert. You'll need to probably use a combination of things to beat them. Try holding them down from the front with some kind of heavy infantry and than attacking from the rear with Cav.

[Morgan Frydman]

If your playing against Jannisary Heavy Inafantry, than you will get slaughtered, they are probably the best unit in the game.

Is there no way around this? They just cut through my army like a chainsaw.

Go to the guide section and look at the unit guides about the jannisaries and other units, read carefully though,

Thanks for the advice. I've read through the unit guides, but I still have no tactic to beat them.

personally I'd use Chivalric or Gothic foot knights to beat them, however those units will tire quickly in the desert. You'll need to probably use a combination of things to beat them. Try holding them down from the front with some kind of heavy infantry and than attacking from the rear with Cav.

I tend not to set my custom battles in the desert. I use south European scenery, ocassionaly winter in N. Europe - just for a difference. Thanks for the advice.

[Kagetora]

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If your playing against Jannisary Heavy Infantry, than you will get slaughtered, they are probably the best unit in the game.



Is there no way around this? They just cut through my army like a chainsaw.


Not really, you would probably have to use a unit of much higher valor, but other than that, they'll just run you over.

[Cebei]

In campaign, I can only suggest attacking Turks when they are weak (this means as soon as possible).

In battle, never charge them head on; instead send two units of cavalry. Fake a charge with your first cavalry, when Jans are chargin in return, withdraw your first cavalry and then attack with your second cavalry from the rear. When second cavalry is in combat, charge in the first cavalry, effectively sandwichin Jans.

Or get some swiss armored pikes. they beat Jans.

[Morgan Frydman]

Or get some swiss armored pikes. they beat Jans.

I've found that swiss pikemen can hold off Heavy Janissaries for quite some time - enough for me to manouvre some cavalry - but end up routing, and then my archers start routing and while I'm trying to sort that out my cavalry's getting chopped up. Sigh. The woes of being a medieval general...