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    Senior Member Senior Member katank's Avatar
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    Default Re: Janissaries. A question.

    JHI are hard to counter.

    I suggest with huge number of missiles.

    their armor value is rather low for such high powered melee troops and can be vulnerable to massed missiles hiding behind meat shield.

    also consider using naptha.

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    Missles, and naptha if you have it just as katank said, also you can skirmish them with some jinnites and tire them out/ kill some before attack them, they will have a penelty fot being tired, they are evil, EVIL I TELLS YA!
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    Default Re: Janissaries. A question.

    Varangian guards slaughtered Jannisary Heavy Infantry four times out of five in the tests I´ve run.

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    Post Jannisary Heavy Infantry

    This is why JHI are so loved by Turkish players: there have no Achillies' heel like other units. Missiles? They carry a large shield. Cavalry? Armour? They are armed with polearms. No armour? Their attack is high enough to deal with that. AP? They don't wear much armour so it has little effect.

    So there is no obvious counter unit. But there are two things you can do:
    1) Overwhelm them and grind them down. If you can sandwich them between two good units, they won't last as long. No unit would.
    2) Grind them down from a distance: yes, they have large shields, but these only offer protection from the front. If you can get a unit at their back, they suddenly are much more vulnerable. Mounted archers and Jinnetes are especially suited for this due to their speed. Javelins and naptha work even better, but this requires a pinning unit, takes more time to get into position (and time is lives when you fight a powerful unit like JHI) and you should expect a lot of friendly casualities when using naphta.
    I would recommend against using javelins when fighting a powerful unit like JHI. Unless you are fast, chances are that the pinning unit will flee before the javilineers get going. Using javelins or naphta without a pinning unit is a skill I do not posses.
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    Get the JHI out of position and use 2 units of mounted crossbows to whittle them down to size.

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    Besides being tough, JHI are fast, too. Faster than most infantry, and tougher than most. This is a very bad combination.
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