Realism vs playability

**Colovion** · 08-20-2004, 18:48

just because of the turn number doesn't mean that it'll take you that long

I mean I've yet to see gunpowder when starting from the beginning of MTW and that's playing conservatively

**Nelson** · 08-20-2004, 19:57

The factions can be strategically balanced AND historically accurate. The Romans had a very hard time building their empire. They didn't simply march around and accept surrenders. Varro, Crassus, and Varus would all disagree with the notion that the world was theirs for the taking. Even winners like Scipio and Caesar would admit that outcomes were often close run things.

The fact is we have no reason to believe as yet that it will be easier to win with the Roman factions than with any other.

**Steppe Merc** · 08-20-2004, 20:04

I agree with that that is how it should be. But look at the evidence. The Romans get more units, more attention, and you have to start out playing as them. Now look at the rest of the faction. They've been butchered to a mockery, most aren't even playable, and are called barbarians.

**Colovion** · 08-20-2004, 20:41

Originally Posted by Steppe Merc

I agree with that that is how it should be. But look at the evidence. The Romans get more units, more attention, and you have to start out playing as them. Now look at the rest of the faction. They've been butchered to a mockery, most aren't even playable, and are called barbarians.

let us remember the episode of Time Commanders as well. The one with the barbarians severly outnumbering the Romans and they had nothing to throw at them, the romans just formed up and waited for the Barb's charge - decimating them when they did. Sure the Romans had some casualties but unless the valour had been tweaked or something that fight was rather telling of the Roman's strengths.

**Blodrast** · 08-20-2004, 21:45

speaking of overpowered romans, ResRomanae's advice of the day suggests that the Romans' cavalry leaves much to be desired. So they do have their weak points, therefore, don't be too pessimistic about it

**CBR** · 08-21-2004, 00:32

Well even if we assume that the Roman factions are the only factions that are balanced to play so what? In Shogun you only had one culture to play with and enemies where of the same culture.

Lots of people have complained about how MTW didnt have the same detail/feel as STW had. RTW looks like it will have the same feel as STW but now comes with a lot of other factions to fight on a much bigger map than STW.

If I disliked Japanese culture and wanted to play the Portuguese I would have been out of luck by buying STW. But from what I see in some posts, some people hate the Romans and want to kill them (but Im sure some of the other factions will be strong enough to do that) in a game called Rome: Total War.

We just cant expect the same level of detail for all factions compared to how the Romans will be.

In STW Multiplayer lots of players and clans took Japanese names and some became interested in the culture and language but I guess Latin isnt in these days..

CBR

**Blodrast** · 08-21-2004, 00:40

aww, come on, CBR, don't be sad !
I'm sure _most_ of the people on these board will thoroughly enjoy RTW, and even for those who don't (at least in the beginning) I'm sure there will be mods to satisfy even the most demanding guys/girls

I'm sure it's gonna be huge fun, and I can't wait for the freaking demo to come out (even though I'm swamped with work)

So cheer up and enjoy the chills of anticipation, 'cause

is coming early this year, even in Denmark