IGN demo impressions

[CBR]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/540/540898p1.html

And some new screenshots too.

Edit: From what I can see in the screenshots it will be up to 9 valor upgrades and unit icons doesnt have fatigue bars anymore. Not what I would consider improvements..


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[Skomatth]

Omg those elephants look ridiculous. Must have chucked the soldiers into the stratosphere.

[Oaty]

As far as fatigue goes this is just a demo and the original shogun demo did not have fatigue in it nor was there an advantage to fighting downhill. Well I agree fatigue should be in there but should definately change. 1 reason the battle fields are suppose to be bigger. If a unit has not engaged or run it should only lose 1 fatigue bar max (climate permitting exe desert,swamp,hi;lly terrain or other variables). Reenforcements should not lose any fatigue until given an order. Desert battles really sucked in MTW because reinforcements were usually worth crap due to fatigue.

[CBR]

RTW still has fatigue, you can see it in the unit mouse over texts. But I just like to get an overview of it without having to mouse over all my units.

And seems like you get to see the status of enemy units too now.


CBR

[Aelwyn]

Yeah not my favorite thing either. Seems it'll be harder to tell which units are fatigued (maybe not too hard but I'm lazy) and I don't think its a good idea to be able to tell the status of enemy units. In that respect they dumbed it down too much. Yeah they're trying to make it as easy as possible to pick up and play, but I don't like that, if that change is permanent.

Also, I like how the unit icons, mini map, and whatever is on the right, fits at the bottom. But, will you be able to enlarge the mini map at all?

[[DnC]]

Reading it now and enjoying, but aren't the upside down ^'s the fatigue bars? Just a new system perhaps. Don't know what else they could be for, they aren't marching bars, those are the yellow ^ ones uptop if I'm correct.

[Stuie]

RTW still has fatigue, you can see it in the unit mouse over texts. But I just like to get an overview of it without having to mouse over all my units.

And seems like you get to see the status of enemy units too now.

CBR

Actually, since everyone is always whining about realism, it seems more realistic to me that you have to check with each unit (mouse over) to obtain their current status rather than having it spelled out for you.

Of course seeing the status of enemy units does the opposite.

[Barkhorn1x]

Actually, since everyone is always whining about realism, it seems more realistic to me that you have to check with each unit (mouse over) to obtain their current status rather than having it spelled out for you.

Of course seeing the status of enemy units does the opposite.

I agree here.

Barkhorn.

[Sjakihata]

Actually, since everyone is always whining about realism, it seems more realistic to me that you have to check with each unit (mouse over) to obtain their current status rather than having it spelled out for you.

Of course seeing the status of enemy units does the opposite.

Disagreed, micro-management doesnt mean historical accuracy, it means numb fingers and needless work. Bad imo.

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I have tried to make a small list of the units we have seen for the demo, in the pictures and such as so far i have:


Carthage:

Carthaginian Skirmishers
Sacred band cavalry
Poeni infantry
War Elephant
Armoured war Elephant
Another cavalry unit perhaps the generals unit, not sure

Mercenary for carthage:

A Gallic light infantry unit
Numidian cavalry
Gallic Cavalry
Cretan Archers

Roman army(at Trebia and in the tutorial part)

Hastati
Triarii
Principles
Velites
Roman Archers
Roman General(heavy cavalry)

The gallic army at the bridge has another tyoe of infantry and another unit of cavalry. The infantry definetly differs as in one of the pics at IGN shows a dead Gaul at the roman archers feet.