Tabletop gaming and TW series.

**Soulflame** · 08-27-2004, 13:36

Hi,

Today when I read the board, I suddenly remembered tabletop gaming, and find the resemblece with the TW series uncanny. In games like Warhammer you also have regiments, also the immersion etc. I never got into it much, though I do own a few warbands for Mordheim (Warhammer based, but with small warbands of 10 or so miniatures), since it costs alot, but I played some at the stores and at friends.
But when I think upon the TW series, at least the previous ones, I think part of its charm is shared with tabletop gaming. Which maybe is also part of the reason why I am less excited about RTW then the previous TW series: it gives less that feel. It is rushed, whereas tabletop gaming and the previous TW series are slowpaced and give plenty of room for everything.

But enough about the RTW speed, we have enough threads about that. My question to all TW players is: Do you play (or have played) tabletop gaming? If yes, which? Do you agree that it resembles the TW series?
And lastly a crazy thought: Could a TW inspired tabletop game work?

I for one believe that last... the principles of TW is easy.. valor, morale, fatigue and such are all easy to understand and implement into tabletop.
Ah well, I'll keep on dreaming

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**Sardukar** · 08-27-2004, 13:58

I played warhammer 40k for 4 years, was alot of fun. I found normal warhammer intruiging but never got into it, but yeah its heeps like TW. Tabletop gaming is good, but as you said it's way to expensive for the average person $50 for like 4 minitures! rofl not worth it. Fun anyway.

**octavian** · 08-27-2004, 14:26

strategy board gaming was an obsession of mine for quite a while... games like Napoleon in Europe and Axis and Allies. and i agree, one thing that struck me when i got NiE was similarities between the two: Both incorperate a turn based strategy period as well as "real time" battles. not only that, but the map of europe has nearly the exact same provences.

**kchickenlord** · 08-27-2004, 14:27

If you are interested in historical tabletop gaming you should look online for games involving smaller miniatures.
You can buy packs of say 100 roman legionaries for under a fiver, 1:72 scale,
warhammer is too large a scale for large battles anyway, smaller scales allow massive battles on a table you can reach into the middle of, and theres been historical tabletop games long before any of warhammer type games.

**Soulflame** · 08-27-2004, 15:49

Yeah, there are those really historical type of games. Somehow I always associate those with glass exhibitions... And it would be a pain to paint those, I already had trouble with warhammer scale units ~:p.
The reason I said Warhammer is that it's probably the most well known form of tabletop miniatures (well, for the younger generations at least).

**Unseen Potato** · 08-27-2004, 15:55

I play Warhammer, I think its very fun.

**kchickenlord** · 08-27-2004, 17:02

true, if youre as much into painting the figures the 1:72 scale is tricky, you would need the hand of a surgeon, but if you just wanted battles you just need to dip the bases in whatever colour you want to play as to distinguish your units form the others.

Alas i fear the days of tabletop gaming are long gone, unless companies making the computerised wargames sell out to the masses or even worse stop selling wargames alltogether to focus on more lucrative markets.
Then we will see historical wargaming saved, and perhaps see more younger players take an interest, its a good way to learn history if anything.

**Sethik** · 08-27-2004, 18:58

I think S:TW was actaully based loosely on the board game of the same name. My brother brought it home one day, but we only played it a couple of times after that because its not that fun with just two people and we had no one else to play with. You would spend koku (which you gained by controling provinces) to but several different types of units (yari spearmen and archers are the only ones I remember.) There were even ninja options where you rolled to see if you assassinate a certain general or the like. That was one of the reasons I jumped on S:TW.

**TonkaToys** · 08-30-2004, 20:48

The campaign game in M:TW is almost exactly like a game by Games Workshop (creators of Warhammer) called Blood Royal (or Blood Royale can never remember if it has the "e" on the end).

This game consisted of a map of Europe (well, Eng, Fra, Ger, Ita, Spa), each country divided into territories, some territories providing tradable goods, etc. There were shipping routes, taxes, troop raising, Kings, Princes, Princesses and the Pope! There were rebellions, plagues and crusades!

I'm almost positive that M:TW was based on Blood Royal.