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**Divine Wind** · 09-03-2004, 12:13

Sorry your all wrong. Best team in the world has to be

Blackburn Rovers!

If anyone doubts this, me and Suey will take anyone on! Mano el Mano!

**Desiderata** · 09-03-2004, 12:16

Originally Posted by King Edward

Im not sure really, he will make a decent Manager as long as he has a solid football brain with him.

Woodward is a superb organiser and knows how to get thinks done so i dont think its impossible for him to make the transition. It will be interesting to watch anyway!

As far as 'Gamesmanship' goes, its cheating in my opinion.

I agree - I think that he can make the transition and he is a superb organiser and he will bring those around him who know more about the specialist areas - he's done that at the ERFC.

I think that if someone has been fouled and they make more of it than it was, it's gamemanship - if there was no contact then its cheating and rightly should be carded. There probably should be more cards for diving than there is, but ref's can't be everywhere and see everything. Perhaps giving the those on the side more 'power' as was done in rugby? Now if you infringe in rugby, the ref may not see, but sodds law the guy on the sides will and he can recommend what the ref does. as for video referees - not in favour. It would slow the game down; timid ref's would resort to it far too often - its happened in rugby league and is creeping into union.

**King Edward** · 09-03-2004, 12:25

Yeah even at the level of rugby i play i've been caught, um 'manipulating' the rules once or twice. (Usually somthing to do with my boot and their body on the floor having some sort umm.. contact......)

I dont like play acting though, I think one of the worst things you can do is fake something to get some one sent off. See Rivaldo in the last world cup as an example.

Video ref should be utter last resort. refs are starting to rely on them too much.

Example of a Touch Judge ruleing in rugby was when Simon Shaw was sent off for England agianst The All blacks by that Blo*dy Aussie Touch judge.

Divine Wind, you were Robbed agianst Utd last week, utterly disgusting!!

**Desiderata** · 09-03-2004, 12:41

So I guess that you playas a forward the? Perhaps a flanker?

Oh Rivaldo's fakery was disgustin - as tho he'd been poleaxed *shame on him*

Yeah, ok Touch Judges don't always get it right and it also depends on the ref of course; there's one english ref (can't remember his name) uses his whistle far too many times - I think it's Steve someone

**King Edward** · 09-03-2004, 12:48

Actually Im a Winger but i still like to get stuck in every now and again. Sometimes its the only way to stay warm!!!

You need a strong ref in rugby or the players will take advantage of him.

**Desiderata** · 09-03-2004, 12:54

Oh yeah - I loved playing at inside centre - lots of action, tackling and u got to see the ball. The best ref I had was a woman - firm, fair n didnt take any sh1t from anyone. The worst was a ref who changed his mind about a decision - told everyone that he was weak and the game nearly dissolved in to a slugfest; didnt help we were playing our local rivals. u know the type of game; the club that u love to hate ha ha ha

**King Edward** · 09-03-2004, 14:07

Yeah had a few refs do the change decision thing, it ruins the game because everyone argues every call after that.

**Desiderata** · 09-03-2004, 14:16

Absolutely - even if the call is wrong, dont change ur mind says I

**King Edward** · 09-03-2004, 14:26

Yep the best thing a ref can do if he makes a bad call is stick to it and if anyone argues march them back 10 until they shut up. They wont do it agian.

Thats what is good about rugby, players have to respect the ref because being marched 10 yards back is a signifcant penalty for team so the players just have to shut up and get on with the game, unlike in football where you see Roy Keane screaming in the refs face when he makes a decision he doesnt like!

**Hirosito** · 09-03-2004, 14:27

right back only place to be (well not really) but you get to tackle people, to run and help in the all important aim of keeping a clean sheet

**Divine Wind** · 09-03-2004, 15:38

Originally Posted by King Edward

Divine Wind, you were Robbed agianst Utd last week, utterly disgusting!!

I know

Blackburn seem to have had no luck for the past couple of seasons with the officials. I cant moan and gripe to much about the result, as a draw with Utd for us is good. But i can moan and gripe about having to waste 20 quid on a ticket to see the game and then have to drive 4 hours back home for a draw, when it should have been a win!

**King Edward** · 09-03-2004, 15:48

Good old Man Utd injury time, well keep playing till utd score.

**The Grand Inquisitor** · 09-03-2004, 16:00

Originally Posted by Desiderata

IIRC Everton football club (just like Celtic) was formed by a catholic priest in the 19th century to divert the attention of the working class from the c**p conditions they lived in. Consequently, the Toffees (Evertons nickname) has traditionally drawn supporters from that faith, whilst the Reds have drawn supporters from Protestant areas. In that respect, Liverpool and Glasgow are very much alike - Rangers = protestant, Celtic = catholic

Please ignore all the above.

1878 St Domingo FC formed at St Domingo Methodist Church, St Domingo Vale. Home matches played in Stanley Park

1879 Name changed to Everton FC

1901 Kit changed to royal blue with white shorts (having had a variety of previous kits, including a black with red sash kit that led to the nickname 'the Black Watch' - a reference to the similarly attired Scottish regiment).

Football as a vehicle for expressing religous intollerence is really a Glaswegian thing and has nothing to do with the supporters background in Liverpool.