Did you enjoy the demo?

[CrackedAxe]

I love it, how could I not? When I consider the games industry as a whole and think about the utter lack of original, intelligent, thought demanding titles out there. When I think about how store shelves are usually stuffed with FPS and bland strategy titles which all seem to be blueprinted from each other, this demo is, and Im sure the game will be; a revelation.

I'm judging it on its own merits, but also in comparison to what else is available, or what else we would have if there was no RTW. So for me, the demo has just made me want the game even more.

[fenir]

I just voted, no comment.

[SpencerH]

I voted for mixed feelings, although based on the comments others have made whom I agree with, I could just have easily voted for 2. I was just thinking that I couldnt play the MTW demo or game when it first came out (since I had a 3dfx card) and the STW demo was so far in the past that I dont remember what I thought (aside from I liked it). Any disapointments I have with the RTW demo are mostly based on my own high expectations and wont stop me from buying the game.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

After the initial shock of the new stuff in the demo, it was pretty good. The majority of the complaints, such as UI, and unbalanced forces, could be fixed (mostly). Those that can't are not big enough to spoil the whole demo (but should be fixed for the final release). With the mods available, there are many battles to be fought in this little demo.

Overall, I think #2 fit best

[Elmo]

Not very good, but I think Rome will be better. Even then I'll need to see some solid patch support before buying it.

[MadKow]

Not very good but i think Rome will be better.
I never played MTW or STW demos, so i can't compare demos. I found that i really dont care much about an area that took a lot of effort, which was units animation and details in melée and stuff like that.
It looks good enough from affar and should play just as good. Thats all i really ask.
I am sure playin the whole Rome Total War will be much better. I was always a campaign player. I like to grow into the game and groom my armies. A bunch of units slapped together for a quick battle has no emotional attachment... I trust everything will be alright, and i trust the people here to make sure that if it turns out not so good, they will make it great.

[dedmoroz]

great demo, can't wait for the final game

[Sir Robin]

Took the kids to the pool #2

Some things could definately use more tweaking but overall I enjoyed it.

Hopefully the full game will live up to my hopes.

Just waiting on the PCGamer review next month.

[Puzz3D]

I didn't like the gameplay in the Trebia battle due to the unit run speeds. It's interesting that longjohn refused to increase the speed of cav by 10% in MTW, and then in RTW it's 25% faster. The infantry run speed is 50% or more faster. I have no reason to expect RTW demo speeds to change in RTW v1.0 since CA doesn't acknowledge that there is a problem. Changing run speeds means readjusting fatigue rates and ranged unit effectiveness. No doubt single player can be adjusted by the players, but multiplayers are pretty much stuck with the official gameplay.

[eldaran]

Numero Dos.

The vanilla demo battles were a bit crappy tbh, but with modding, that allows:

1.) New Battlefields,
2.) Weather,
and
3.) The ability to set up troops prior to battle

I was a lot more impressed. As the above things will obviously be part of the full game, i'm very hopeful that, combined with the improved strategic mode, it'll be a great game.

[Mr. Juice]

What mod are you using to set up your troops before battle?

[eldaran]

http://www.totalwarcenter.com/forums...opic=7123&st=0 All the info for changing to new battle maps, deploying pre-battle etc is in the first post there.

[The Marcher Lord]

Enjoyed it, but it needs some polishing in a number of areas. I am optimistic that the final game will be good, if not great. Without the incredible modding that quickly saved the day I think the demo, and the lack of feedback from CA (as usual ) on everyones comments, would have turned quite a few players away from this game.

[econ21]

It's a very good demo - much more substantial (an entire battle) than I was expecting.

Graphically, the zoom-in to melees is very impressive. I like the main menu music too - hope there is more of it in the final game. Zoomed out, I find it harder to take in the entire battlefield - maybe I am just pushing the screen resolution too much for my laptop, but pretty soon things start getting blurry.

I agree that movement seems a little too quick - this, and the difficulty discerning unit types at a distance means that battles soon get hard to follow. Elephants do seem overpowered - their hit points need halving or more than halving. But those things aside, it was clear that this is more of the TW goodness we are used to, with flanking, timing, correct unit match ups etc all being important.

[Colovion]

If it wasn't for mods I'd say this was a really shitty demo.

[Omegamann]

Voted 3.
As I was very much looking foreward to getting a roman eara toal war game finaly, I have to say my feelings are realy very much mixed.
Though the graphics are great (I can play smoothly on the highst settings) I cant realy feel immersed in the game.
The controls are to much different from the usual MTW/STW and somehow in 3d the big units on the huge maps look a lot smaler compared to the old 2d units (I played around with modrome so I have already tried armys composed with 120man units)
Though I didnt have to much problems with the unit speeds and killing ratios I do admit its now a lot more difficult to keep in control of a battle (without pausing which spoils the immersion for me)

[Elmo]

So far only 11% think the demo great. The rest of us feel there is still work to be done. Hopefully CA is listening and will address the issues.

[The_Emperor]

Let us hope.

Anyway I originally thought the demo wasn't too great but then I played it a bit more and it grew on me in time.

After playing with some of the mods, I think it will turn out to be good.

The whole Trebia battle I initially thought was just really off ... I expected us to be able to have time to deploy our forces, and have a little bit of freedom. (I guess I remembered the TC Trebbia Episode too much, and all the time and space they had)

But all the work was done for us which was very lame, all we had to do was just charge our cavalry in!

All in all I voted for 2 because I think it was a good demo with need for improvement... But the choice of battle and the lack of freedom of fighting it the way you wanted really spoiled it.

It was just too scripted and planned out.

[jgp]

I thought it was a great percursor of things to come. The terrain and overall imersion factor from the landscape are outstanding.

I do hope some of the unit management of MTW are in the full release as there were some excellent tools available there.


The one thing that made me crazy about STW/MTW was the limited ability to maneuver, always hitting the edge of the map. That does not seem to be as pronounced here.

Overall I am impressed and anxiously await the full release.

[Elmo]

My biggest disappointment with the demo is that no strategic play is included. That should represent at least half the fun of the game and you'd think CA would want to showcase that. Instead they put together something to appeal to the twitch crowd primarily. Perhaps they think that will be the primary market for RTW, and they may very well be correct.

[Nelson]

My biggest disappointment with the demo is that no strategic play is included. That should represent at least half the fun of the game and you'd think CA would want to showcase that. Instead they put together something to appeal to the twitch crowd primarily. Perhaps they think that will be the primary market for RTW, and they may very well be correct.

The earlier demos did not include the strategy game either. The absence of same may be disapointing but it says no more about the target audience than the former demos.

[Elmo]

Good point. Guess we'll just have to see how the full game plays out.

[TCon88]

Number 2 for me. I enjoyed it quite alot but like most people i found some annoying factors (green arrows & speed), overall though it was a decent enough demo, just hope the game isnt like it.

[Steppe Merc]

I voted for four, even though I am seriously losing faith. It's more of I hope it's good, not think it's better.

[Jango Fett]

i enjoyed the demo, but i enjoyed the mods more!

[ToranagaSama]

Well, I didn't vote yet, think I'll give the demo one more chance.

Frankly, I'm greatly disappointed. I won't list my complaints in this thread, but sufficie it to say compared to the Shogun Demo, which was a 10!, and Compared to the Medieval Demo, which also was an 8.5, when compared to Shogun.

The MTW demo, wasn't quite the Tutorial that the STW demo was, STW demo's battles were MUCH better! Though, if judged on its w/o the comparison, it'd be a 10, as well.

BOTH demos made me salivate for the game and had an EXTREME feeling of atmosphere and realism.

Unfortunately, the same, IMO, can't be said for the Rome demo.

The Map, discounting the *sprite* tree leaves, is mangificent, though the *water* isn't as impressive as it was in STW, given the improvements in technology.

The Unit graphics, are simply too *cartoonish*, with unrealistic colors and animations. I can imagine and appreciate, the effort that CA put into the engine, but, in today's age, particularly in the age of Far Cry, Doom 3 (, and HL2), the graphics just don't cut it!!!

A couple of years ago, they'd be cutting edge, but the graphics are a couple years behind the times.

Frankly, the old STW sprites, and certainly the MTW units, look BETTER and have MUCH MORE **REALISTIC** ANIMATIONS!!

The demo just didn't give me any *feeling*.

The Interface plainly is a poor imitation of what WORKED. It wasn't broken, why'd they try and fix it? I had no idea they were going to screw around with the interface.

Imagine, if a FPS, went and change the familiar WASD keyboard interface, to RDFG. There's be an uproar louder than an Atom bomb across the Internet!

The rest of my thoughts I'll leave for one more play and another thread, thank you for listening.

:mecry: :mecry: :mecry:

~ToranagaSama

[ah_dut]

my main pro. is the interface, too clunky, you can't do turning and such like fast enough, and the game is waay to fast. PLease Ca why can't you not fix what aint broke?

[Osbot]

Most people actually play FPS with ESDF now.

[Kraxis]

A #2 from me.

I absolutely loved playing the battles, loved it even more with the mods.

My main gripes are, turning units (I can't number the times I did the old alt-rightclick) and the speed of the units, but I don't especially love the routing flags (too obvious).

In general I get the feeling that I just need to adapt, at least that is my initial thought.
I have been in a semi-hibernation and haven't noticed what people either complain about or love all too much. But I have noticed a few comments on the dragging of a line of units. I haven't had much problems there, I acutually found it very similar to the MTW experience. It was perfect for th modded tutorial battle where you play the main Roman army. I just loved to line my Principes up right behind my Hastati who in turn where behind the Velites.

[todorp]

It's unmoddable (I don't care about different battle setups), so I voted for 4.

Yes, it is much harder to mod and I don't like it too. I play the mods 2 or 3 times more then the MTW or STW, I love the variety.