Is the .com hicksville?

[danimal]

Don't know much about it.

Have visited it a couple of times and it all seems very rosy there.

The guys here obviously have a low opinion of it.

What's the score?

(For those of you who are too innocent to understand the concept of hicksville it is where your dad is also your sister. You will know you live there if both your feet are on the same leg.)

[Aelwyn]

I don't really like it. I go there most days that I visit here, just to see if theres any threads of interest. I remember that there obviously isn't, and remind myself not to go back, but I usually still do.

[danimal]

Is it there to put posotive spin on the game in the knowledge that sensible discussion will be done in the .org?

[Red Raptor Guy]

Do not insult the .com. It is cool.

[Aelwyn]

Is it there to put posotive spin on the game in the knowledge that sensible discussion will be done in the .org?

No. For the most part its the same as the ORG, just different people there....and therefore different personalities. Plus, they don't have the separation of forums like we have here (they have a little bit, but not as much as here), so you'll open up the Rome forum for instance, and find threads about many different topics all right there. I don't like that as there are many things I'm NOT interested in, and since they have soo many people visiting and posting in those threads, the things I might be interested in get pushed back a few pages. And I don't know about anyone else, but if somethings past the first page...I don't go looking for it.

CA visits there more, so they might get more info, but its not worth it imo.

[Del Arroyo]

The .com isn't hicksville, it's typical. The ORG is simply different. The administration is fully engaged. The people in charge of it now are the same people who were here four or five years ago-- they've seen it all, and work actively to keep things tilted away from most of the direr forms of insanity.

The Org is a well-run board. .Com is very typical.

DA

[Odysseus]

What I like abou the .com better than the org, is quite obvous. Where'd they get all this crap about "new members have to go here and senior members go here". It's plain stupid. And I just like the people over at the .com better than the people here.

[Tamur]

edit, oops...

[Gregoshi]

What site you like or dislike is a very personal thing. Each site has something to offer, it just depends upon how your likes match up. Then there is also the comfort factor - how much you like the way the members interact with each other and you. Where you might find a site membership snotty and abusive, another my think they are friendly and helpful. It is not so much what we think, but more importantly, what you think.

Edit: Odysseus, the system used here was put into place for a reason. Basically it serves as a meeting place between old and new forum members. It also serves as a screening mechanism for spammers and troublemakers. It has evolved and restrictions lessened in the past two years - in the beginning new patron could only post here in the Entrance Hall. Now there are only a few restricted forums.

[Colovion]

What I like abou the .com better than the org, is quite obvous. Where'd they get all this crap about "new members have to go here and senior members go here". It's plain stupid. And I just like the people over at the .com better than the people here.

It's funny because you're a Junior Patron. ~:p

I only visit the Org and TWC - the Com is pretty typical of a fanboy site.

[Papewaio]

Guys the .com and The Org (okay slight bias)... are two sides of a coin. The .com is the manufacturers site, .org is the meeting ground for the fans.

Now there is no sense in beating up one over the other. Some of our best patrons frequent both sites. Erado San for instance is a classic example of both a very friendly and helpful Org member and being a vital member at .Com.

Now the Junior Patron system is frustrating to both the Junior Patron and to the moderators... so why do we do it?

Ever been at a site where trolls, spammers and flammers are allowed to wander in and upset the place? Well this is our time consuming method of minimising it. Also Junior Patron status allows us to demote someone who has started to froth at the mouth, without having to ban them outright. We like to keep our fellow patrons, but sometimes they need to cool their heels.

Now the trend at the Org is that everytime a new Game, expansion pack, demo or patch comes out people get very on edge. We get an explosive mix of anticapative eager patrons and upset disappointed ones. Essentially it gets very tense around here and it is best if everyone chills, relaxs and be as polite as possible.

[Colovion]

WOrd

[TonkaToys]

... And I just like the people over at the .com better than the people here.

Odysseus,

I've only visited the .com once or twice, usually when someone here at the Org points out an interesting article. The people there seemed fine, just like the people here.
I tend to lurk around the Org simply because I recognise the people here and like the way the board is run.

Can you let me know why you prefer the people over at the .com, as I would then know whether to spend a bit of my time there too?

Thanks, all the best,

TT

[exarchi]

Neither of these sites is any good tbh... not enough people post here, and .com is ezboard.

[Oleander Ardens]

The .com can be a very fine place, infact it is were I started posting, with a great deal of intelligent people. Had great discussions there;
But there are also more "useless" post at here, topics which come up for the xx time and take away the few space. This is a logical consequence of the great influx of "newbies", especially in the last month or so. I don't envy the Mods there, good guys which have to work hard to keep the .com in line..

The .org is more familiar, with many nice subforum ( and a rough one, as you all know) in fine order, and mostly "veteran" members; The standard level of the discussion is therefor usually higher and I really had some great ones here, especially the "Teach me how to use HA" with great imput from Dough and Katank.

All in all I like both ~:p

Cheers

OA

[Sasaki Kojiro]

.com can be very nice, lots of good stuff in the shogun section. Unfortunatly there are always lots of new people there and without the entrance hall it makes for a lot of junk/useless threads. Quite a few rude ppl as well which is the worst thing. It's not as pretty as this forum and the off topic section is very restricted. I still visit there regularly and post a lot, it just isn't as nice as the org.

[Soulflame]

I actually went there first when I wanted some info on the TW games (remember I'm only playing them for little more then 2 months). But somehow the registration was very awkward and I couldn't join those boards (which I had before with ez-boards).
But like said before, those boards are very fastpaced, as all developer sites are. Threads you post in are lost within a day and there's just an information overload, with alot of things just not worth my time or already read.
So I like this board better, since if I make it here once every 1 or 2 days, I can still see all the new posts in the first page of threads. Plus this site has cooler smileys ;)

[Soulfly]

The .com has some nice people, but the problem is that they've got so many people. And with such a large member base, you're bound to find more than a few bad eggs. Yet over here, everyone seems to be nice :) (and overall, more mature I must say).

I also hate the fact that at the com, whenever I post, there's about 10 people posting at the same time. You can quickly lose track of posts and threads. Again, huge members base.

[exarchi]

The .com has some nice people, but the problem is that they've got so many people. And with such a large member base, you're bound to find more than a few bad eggs. Yet over here, everyone seems to be nice :) (and overall, more mature I must say).

I also hate the fact that at the com, whenever I post, there's about 10 people posting at the same time. You can quickly lose track of posts and threads. Again, huge members base.

I think it's progress that you are openly admitting to being a forum newbie in general.

[Silver Rusher]

What's with this .com bashing? It's a good place, I only just signed up for here though.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Louis' two cents:

The threads down here are generally more interesting, but the posters can sometimes be a bit more uptight.

Both places are fine though.

[ShellShock]

I've been on the com for about 18 months, and it has been my main port of call until recently, and will be until I get uprated from junior patron here.

I must say it is a bit frustrating reading threads in the other forums here and not being able to reply with something cogent and relevant.

[Odysseus]

Well, I just really haven't got settled here yet. When I was newbie over at the .com, I was treated very nicely. Here, people just didn't have the same reaction.

[Maeda Toshiie]

I am a regular at .com Those who frequent the MTW and STW side of stuff will see my posts there. I have been there lurking/posting since the start of the year 2004, mainly in the STW, MTW and off-topic boards.

In general, the .com is a pretty good place. The rowdier boards are the RTW related ones. The ones that I stick to have enough senior guys to ensure that noobs dont run amok (either warned or censored by the mods).

Recently, the upcoming release of RTW and the release of the demo brought along a wave of new patrons, which included some undesirable elements. Arguing them only makes one look spastic, so I tend to stay away from the RTW boards now.

Many of the regulars there are patrons here as well, so it is not quite right to separate the .com from the Org.

One thing I do like about here are the smilies. I can do without siggies and avies, but those smilies are real cute.

[ElmarkOFear]

The .com forum has gone from 12000 members to around 14000 members since the demo came out. I can only imagine how many there will be when RTW is released.

I am now an admin there, but I have been at the .org thru thick and thin, major revolts and other turmoils. You will find more of the MP community at other sites. The .com is mostly single player types with a few MP mixed in. I was asked to moderate at the .com, with the sole purpose of starting and moderating the 2 multiplayer sections which were added then. CA wanted some input from the MP community, but we are not sure what or if anything was taken from those discussions. We will see soon though.

One thing people do not realize, is there is a reason the developers do not answer questions at the .com. It is not some pat, "Oh, they don't have time." statement. It is for the reason, that from past experience, the developers were flamed every time they made a statement about why something was put in the game and they also made some statements, which turned out to be false, since either the feature couldn't be added or the publisher/programmers decided against it. The developers are not quite as thick-skinned as the .com admins and moderators and tend now to shy away from open responses. If it makes you feel better, even the mods and admins very rarely get any questions they have answered either. :)

Believe me, the moderators are working overtime at the .com trying to keep up with all the duplicate posts, useless spamming and troublesome patrons. We know it is a no-win situation. If we edit/delete/move posts, someone starts shouting "Nazis!", "Fascists", "Where is our freedom of speech!" and other such nonsense. If we let those same posts stay where they are, all the other patrons begin shouting, "Moderators aren't doing their job!", "The moderators need to get a handle on these." and the always insightful; "This forum sucks!". :) Anyways, we do what we can, with the little bit of time we can spend there and hope everyone eventually settles down into a normal patron.

Personally, there is something good and bad at every TW site. Depends what you are looking for.

[Oleander Ardens]

Believe me, the moderators are working overtime at the .com trying to keep up with all the duplicate posts, useless spamming and troublesome patrons. We know it is a no-win situation. If we edit/delete/move posts, someone starts shouting "Nazis!", "Fascists", "Where is our freedom of speech!" and other such nonsense. If we let those same posts stay where they are, all the other patrons begin shouting, "Moderators aren't doing their job!", "The moderators need to get a handle on these." and the always insightful; "This forum sucks!". :) Anyways, we do what we can, with the little bit of time we can spend there and hope everyone eventually settles down into a normal patron.

Yup, but considering that I hardly see any of this posts shows that the mods are really working overtime. Only by talking to Psycho how ugly things become sometimes. Even if I'm too don't agree in rare occasions with a mod decision I still think that they deserve a lot of credit for keeping that forum operatable...

Cheers

OA

[Odysseus]

It's to bad.

[Desiderata]

Im on both sites; I do think there is a better organisation and structure here and I do like the junior patron et al deal.

There's another site I used to go to that's now as dead as a dodo - neoseeker

[PSYCHO V]

Hmmm ... I like it here...nice and peaceful

... no "please delete this"..."please close that" ..."please ban me"


ah...very nice indeed

[Papewaio]

Is this the old Psycho?