Quote Originally Posted by English assassin
Even with AUM pinned in front of one unit of SAP, and charged in the rear by another, they took an awfully long time to die.

Whats going on here?
AUMs are one of the best early era infantry units, and the high valor gens make them pretty tough.

With the Boyars you should be able to shoot the AUM up before engaging, run 'em around a little bit to wea them out.

I see people get SAP crazy and build / use too many SAP units in an army, both in MP and SP. In my armies SAPs replace the spears/Chiv Sarg/OFS but I rarely have more than 3 or 4 units of spears in any one stack.

The problem is that SAPs, like all spear units, have a relatively low att factor, so pinning and flanking with SAPs isn't nearly as effective as pinning with SAPs and flanking/charging into the rear with Boyars or Vikings or even better, Druzhina Cav.

ichi