Everyone needs to remember that this is a demo!!!! n/t

**Tomisama** · 09-05-2004, 23:03

Elm, I think the as-is Demo was intended to wow the “uninitiated” to sell games, and it does that!

For those pros who would like to test the metal for this new game engine, well they know where the mod forums are.

My post was for those in-between vets, who was where I was when I first tried this thing out, “very disappointed”! I thought the serious multiplayer community had been forsaken for the single player campaign flash battlers (all show and no real tactical go).

Now that I have poked around a little, I think that RTW is the best thing since sliced bread

Truly an “awesome” game (don’t want to overuse the word awesome, but there is no other)!

And finally, in my opinion (again) there is nothing wrong with the speed of anything in this game either. Thought so at first also, then when I learned how to play in this more realistic invironment, it became clear that these are the correct speeds, not the ones we are use too.

P.S. If you want better camera height hit F9 (higher that standard TotalWar Camera), then adjust down and angle ;)

**Steppe Merc** · 09-06-2004, 02:00

Realistic? No one can run like they do with full armor and weapons. No one.

**CBR** · 09-06-2004, 02:48

That people like the new speed...fine by me, just dont use the realism argument plz

The marching speed for both MTW and RTW is 100 meters/minute. Now thats a nice speed for troops in marching column on a road but not when off road while trying to maintain a combat formation. But I dont mind that as its a game.

This might be a demo but some of us are concerned about the effect of a 50% increase in running speed combined with a 25% increase in units to control. Videos released seems to show similar speed so I expect its more or less final.

CBR

**Tomisama** · 09-06-2004, 03:47

On a daily basis the Roman era soldiers lived in their basically light armor, and regularly carried in the neighborhood of 60 to 70 pounds in tools, armor, and rations. They lived their whole life on foot, and striped to their fighting necessities could probably have sustained a very lively clip, even over rough terrain. Add to this the adrenalin push of the possibility of an extremely painful death, and it just might all add up.

Remember these were boys (quite literally) who had never been to Berger King.

**CBR** · 09-06-2004, 05:05

Well they did not do anything spectacular compared to other armies through history.

http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/...hing/rates.doc

http://www.totalwar.com/community/history.htm

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Orac...arch-move.html

CBR

**King Azzole** · 09-06-2004, 06:24

I think the whining about the whining about the whining is REALLY annoying

**Tomisama** · 09-06-2004, 16:17

Good work CBR!

Very informative.

But marching (fully loaded) from camp to camp in a baggage train procession, and deployment on a field for battle; apples and oranges!

All I really know is what I see. Step for step, marching, double time, and charge, all viewed up close and personal, all looks very realistic to me. May just be the eye of the beholder?

I won’t pursue this anymore, but would like to hear any further comments