Medmod Strategies

**Ranges** · 09-09-2004, 12:09

Originally Posted by katank

Actually, the Sicilians are not that easy if you actually don't use pavisiers and take advantage of the fact that the only reason they are there is because the faction subs for Genoese Confed in Late.

The Brits are easy.

longbows in early is good. Norman knights are also powerful although not quite as good as destriders. muntators are jineetes and quite nice.

the claymores also pack a punch though the clansmen aren't as cost effective any more.

fyrdmen are fairly solid still.

Actually, i havent figured out the appeal of the pavisiers yet, but that may be me. they have less armour and attack than italian light infantry, although their units are larger. I tend to stick with italian light infantry, they do quite well for me.

As for muntators, where do i build them, and what are the prerequisites?

That, actually, is my biggest problem; i dont know the requirements for most units. Is there a list anywhere?

**katank** · 09-09-2004, 16:50

use gnome editor and open the MM units file and check column 17.

pavisiers are usually godly in the hands of the AI and are quite jedi.

takes 3-4 units pounding it from all sides and sometimes it still doesn't break. so OP...

**Ranges** · 09-09-2004, 18:50

Hrrm...

I see, well, i guess there has to be something to say for those fellas :)

I'll give them another shot :)
Thanks :)

**katank** · 09-09-2004, 22:14

no prob.

actually, I never played as the Italians so maybe they are only super jedi when on AI's side.

**Ranges** · 09-10-2004, 10:20

Well, the italian pavisiers actually crashed my english campaign.. Then again, i was relying heavily on the longbow + fyrdmen + norman knight combo..

And guess what, superior spears with high armor, a pavise and a tendency to hold for VERY long are capable of dealing with EACH of those units.. *sighs* It was educational, but very painful.. :P

Right now i'm working on france, hard, early.. And i'm currently crusading everybody to pieces.

Those norman knights are once again better in AI hands than in my own. Figures, i guess i've got a lot to learn...

**Mightypeon** · 09-10-2004, 13:17

The only awnser to Pavisiers are either the Byz guys (who are as op but more expensive) other Paviesiers or ridden archers/X-bows whatsorever.

**son of spam** · 09-10-2004, 15:10

Or you can outgeneral the Italians by so much that Pavs don't matter much anymore :D. It's not that hard in early, I think they only get one hero, and he's easily disposed of. I like to see their scary scary pavisiers led by a 0* charge my lb line lead by a 8* 7v Norman knight. hehe