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    Member Member Sir Toma of Spain's Avatar
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    Default Useless GA goals

    I have found some GA goals that just don't work
    1) The italian noble merchantism
    even though my trade income in antioch, tripoli and egypt was more than anyone else was making i still didn't get the points
    2) The aragonese crusade to antioch
    i launched the crusade, it was successful, i didn't get the points
    3) The german hanestac league
    even though they only have switzerland and swabia they still get the 5 points or something for it
    4) the russian fortress one
    i only had the goal once and i built a fortress during that time period but once again didn't get the points

    does anyone know why
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    Default Re: Useless GA goals

    dunno, sometimes things can be bugged.

    I remember the greatest city GAs and the Iberian civ GAs as the most annoying to accomplish though as well as try building the Krak without naval links.

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    Default Re: Useless GA goals

    for the crusades, you need to hold the territory (taken by crusade) until the next points-tally year.

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    Default Re: Useless GA goals

    1. - yep, this is bugged, I have never got it to work either. Never got points.
    2. - As described by Solypsist
    3. - Yep, another bugged one, they always get the points no matter what.
    4. - I think with this one points only get counted when the game ends (1453). Not positive on that one though. So if you build a fortress and it get razed, you have to build it up again.
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    Default Re: Useless GA goals

    The GAs have been broken right from the beginning. Even worse, 90% of them are conquest related anyway making the easiest way to win a GA game to go on a conquer-fest

    AFAIK, no-one has ever figured out a way to mod the GAs
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    Default Re: Useless GA goals

    Quote Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi
    The GAs have been broken right from the beginning. Even worse, 90% of them are conquest related anyway making the easiest way to win a GA game to go on a conquer-fest

    AFAIK, no-one has ever figured out a way to mod the GAs
    Yeah its a bit of a shame they can't be modded, oh well maybe if a MTW2 comes out then we will have a chance. Homelands and conquest GA can be modded and included for new factions however.
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    Default Re: Useless GA goals

    Not only there are bugged GAs, but there are even hidden ones. I've never figured out how to display the missing ones.

    I've never seen this one for example

    "Teutonic expansionism from the West threatens all the slavic peoples. Poland is the spine of the defence and must stand firm before the aggressors. Points are counted on 1204 and 1320. You must control:"

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    Default Re: Useless GA goals

    Quote Originally Posted by solypsist
    for the crusades, you need to hold the territory (taken by crusade) until the next points-tally year.
    i held the provence for over 50 years
    another thing the goal dissapears after the crusade
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    Default Re: Useless GA goals

    are you using original MTW or the add on Viking Invasion? because with vanilla MTW I noticed that wasa bug, crusades never actually got counted with GA point count. In VI it works fine though.
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    Default Re: Useless GA goals

    I recall crusades always working for me (don't remember trying as Aragon though). They give the points the very next year.

    The Fortress in Moscow bug may be, that you had the fortress before you got the goal? that same problem can be had as the almos, where you have to build a citadel in Grenada. You have to build it after you get the goal to get the points. France have a similar problem with a reliquiary and cathedral in Paris.

    I've had trouble with the danish trade-goal as well - these seem to be broken.
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    Default Re: Useless GA goals

    problem can be had as the almos, where you have to build a citadel in Grenada. You have to build it after you get the goal to get the points.
    You'll also lose the points if you upgrade to a fortress before the time for this goal has run out.
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    Default Re: Useless GA goals

    Quote Originally Posted by Armchair Athlete
    are you using original MTW or the add on Viking Invasion? because with vanilla MTW I noticed that wasa bug, crusades never actually got counted with GA point count. In VI it works fine though.
    I am using VI

    it's good (well not good but) to know that everyone has these problems and its not just me
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