Useless GA goals

**Armchair Athlete** · 09-17-2004, 04:06

Originally Posted by katank

also, there's no way to raze a single level of the building.

I'd like that as even if you make the mistake of building say a fortress upgrade on top of that, you can rebuild quicker in time.

I think I had the same issue for the Krak when I built an upgrade on top of the citadel.

You can get rid of a single level of a castle by letting the AI invade and capture the province. Some buildings get destroyed, and sometimes th elevel of the castle gets dowgraded by one. It seems the chance of this happening is higher for forts and lower for fortresses. But I have had it happen once when I captured Const. from the Byzantines, their fortress turned into a citadel.

**Lonewarrior** · 09-17-2004, 04:08

No problems even if they are useless, your conquering provinces points will make it seem as if those GA should have not even been there in the first place.

**katank** · 09-17-2004, 21:35

armchair athlete, I'm quite aware of letting the AI capture it but since I have to take it back, it often gets knocked down two levels due to the siege from the AI taking it and you taking it back.

I don't like the AI to take my provinces anyhow.

BTW, what you observe is the structres going down levels.

the castle upgrades also count so the fortress (plain one) was downgraded to citadel and demiculv towers.

anyhow, the citadel in big C, the only high level fortification in many cases, start as having a barbican upgrade so it's rarely reduced to castle and thus people don't notice.

the keeps however, frequently become fort, motee, and bailey.

actually the higher level castles downgrade pretty often also.

**Romaoi** · 12-05-2004, 13:00

What I hate is when you take a province in a raid, and get a nice big fat citadel or something and find out, when you go to destroy it for cash that you only get 200 florins for it becasue it has barbicam or something upgrade. So, being greedy, you destroy it and the whole thing disappears. Shouldn't there 2,000 florins worth of stone under that upgrade?

**henoch** · 12-05-2004, 19:39

*my* AI is very good in ignoring the whole GA- thing, and i should do so too.. but i can`t, these "notes" are funny to read though.

add:

HIDDEN GA; muslim holy lands.

you have to take control of any province meant above, then lose it, then see a "dshihad(?) x for y points" note in your GA list. this ends at 1205 so don`t try to get these at high/late. note: it is meant to take the province via dshihad(?). if a muslim faction has it, you have to wait for a catholic to take it (turn it rebel, wait for italia or sicily).

**Ironside** · 12-06-2004, 09:59

Originally Posted by henoch

you have to take control of any province meant above, then lose it, then see a "dshihad(?) x for y points" note in your GA list. this ends at 1205 so don`t try to get these at high/late. note: it is meant to take the province via dshihad(?). if a muslim faction has it, you have to wait for a catholic to take it (turn it rebel, wait for italia or sicily).

Actually anyone taking it is enough, it showed up when the Turks took Edessa, when I was the Egyptians.

**Marquis de Said** · 12-06-2004, 13:57

Actually anyone taking it is enough, it showed up when the Turks took Edessa, when I was the Egyptians.

In other words, if you want extra GA points as Turks, Eggy and (maybe) Almohads, you should invade/own Antioch, Edessa, Palestine and Tripoli, then lose them to whoever is willing to invade them. After that take them back with a jihad to get the points. AFAIK you will get the same points per province as the Crusades give for each of these provinces.

Marquis