Trying soo hard to make this game hard!

**maestro** · 09-13-2004, 14:53

Hi guys,

I've been trying desperately to make MTW a hard game and actually provide a challenge. I feel that once you've mastered getting in the florins you can't hepl but annihilate the oposition. So I decided to intall the med-mod, I've heard lots of people say it's much more challenging than the main game.

I thought I'll try the Swedishg - they looked quite difficult and I haven't used them before. Turn one - check out the situation. It's clear that the Danes have got to go - and quick. So I beef up the army in a couple of turns and take Denmark. No problem there. The Danish king and his men fled to Norway. Very good, consolidate Denmark and - oh no - the Danes have gone after Finland! Consider Finland not to be as important as the Scandinavian peninsula so ignore it (6 years for seige to end) and head for Norway. No problems there. Although I've gopt a strong footing over the three provinces of Scandinavia, the Danes sank my boats and I've lost my means of getting back to Finland. Until, in turn7 of the game, I get a rebellion in Finland and the bloody computer decided to give me two squads of Knights Templar, two squads of Feudal Foot Knights, a squad of Feudal Sergeant Crusaders and two units of Crossbows - what gives!?!? So much for a hard game! I now have the most powerful army on the entire game board, all of the Scandinavian peninsula and ten years hasn't even passed yet! Someone just doesn't want me to be challenged by this game - roll on RTW in expert mode

**Armchair Athlete** · 09-13-2004, 15:03

If you want a real challenge you could try Viking Hordes MTW XL mod. Its probably the hardest mod I have played. Trade income is significantly reduced (so no more trade empires), the morale of all units has been bosted and the AI builds better units and is more aggressive. For a real challenge try not using autoclac for any battles and actually fight them out. The comp uses tactics I have never seen htem use before. If you can win that on expert the you are truely 1337 and I bow before you

Final version comes out tomorrow night so you might as well wait for that before downloading

**Sinner** · 09-13-2004, 15:06

Try using various self-imposed limitations to your gameplay: never provoke a war and limit yourself to taking one province from an enemy each war; never raise your taxes above normal; limit your ships to within 5 regions of your ports to reduce trade income; avoid or limit your use of any overpowered units such as AUM, Druzhina Cavalry, AHC; avoid using agents offensively.

Other than that, perhaps edit the startpos files to give the AI factions lots more money so they field better armies against you.

**maestro** · 09-13-2004, 18:30

Originally Posted by Armchair Athlete

Final version comes out tomorrow night so you might as well wait for that before downloading

Where might I be able to aquire this most challengin of mods?

**Divine Wind** · 09-13-2004, 21:46

Find the mod here:

VikingHorde Mod

**Quokka** · 09-13-2004, 22:54

Try the HRE/Early/Expert in the MedMod.

**Colovion** · 09-13-2004, 22:55

Sounds like you had one Good/Bad experience with medMod and you think it's all like that - it isn't.

Try playing again as HRE and see what happens...

**katar** · 09-14-2004, 02:21

HRE/Early/Expert in the MedMod.

ouch!

tried that a few times, quite a painful experience indeed.

**Oaty** · 09-14-2004, 02:44

I find it funny that I have to say the HRE is 1 of the easier ones with medmod. Now the French for me was the ugly 1 and I had to restart once.

**katank** · 09-15-2004, 21:32

french aren't very hard.

getting destriders, FMAA< and crossbows are all good.

far better than the heerban trash that is fielded by HRE.

the diensleutes(sp?) aren't bad though

**Duke Dick** · 09-16-2004, 19:14

dont overlook BKB's super mod, in my experience, it is the toughest mod i have encountered so far, and the most enjoyable as well. it deserves a download just to see the effort that has gone into making it.

**VikingHorde** · 09-16-2004, 20:49

The new 2.0 version can be downloaded here:

The small version:
http://www.3ddownloads.com/strategy-..._XL2_Light.exe

The big one:
http://www.3ddownloads.com/strategy-...W_XL2_Full.exe

**son of spam** · 09-17-2004, 04:07

Originally Posted by oaty

I find it funny that I have to say the HRE is 1 of the easier ones with medmod. Now the French for me was the ugly 1 and I had to restart once.

well i still think the HRE is tougher, but I had to restart as the French once too. Got excommed, and then every fricking major power in the world declared war on me=game over.

**Goofball** · 09-23-2004, 18:44

Try the following:

1) MedMod, Early, Expert, faction of your choice.

2) Wipe out the Papacy and take over the entire Italian peninsula.

3) Leave at least 500 troops in all of the Pope's previous territories.

4) Carry on playing as normal.

This guarantees that the Papacy will MASSIVELY re-emerge every 10 to 15 years, with very tough troops (usually knights templar, chivalric foot knights, and Italian sailors, in my experience). This forces you to divert huge amounts of troops from what you were already trying to do in order to supress the insurgency and throws a wrench into all of your carefully laid plans. Makes life much more exciting.