Does more speed make rolling up AI flank (too) easy?

**Sir Moody** · 09-15-2004, 22:23

there are pther battles where this tactic was used as well (mostly Roman Vs Others) it was a common tactic

**Orda Khan** · 09-16-2004, 00:55

I ran a test battle tonight, Julii v Senate on Hard setting.
I put my units in guard formation, skirmish off and fire at will, stood there and let him attack. The major plus was being able to zoom down to troop level to watch the action...this was gorgeous. However I won convincingly, which I thought was a bit much but worse still was the fact that 3 Barbarian inf, 1 Tiarii and my General never even engaged

With 2 equal armies surely this can't be right

.....Orda

**Tamur** · 09-16-2004, 01:16

I just did the same thing, with 4 units each of Hastati, Principes, and Triarii on each side (Julii vs Senate). I was defending, and parked my units in three lines on a small hill with my left flank covered by a big rock. I won without touching the mouse (except to get my Principes to charge in when the Hastati were getting worn down). 520 kills to 160 or something like that.

I've begun to think that, for the demo at least, the fatigue factor plays a much larger part than perhaps it will in the full version. The enemy had to march about 500 yards to engage my troops, who only had to march about 50 to position themselves on the hill.

As you said, with two equal armies you'd think the odds would be closer. But it's been pretty consistent that the army who marches more gets smacked pretty hard, given equal odds otherwise.

**Steppe Merc** · 09-16-2004, 01:22

I've noticed that after marching, if you rest a bit, mabye send out skirmershers for a while, your army regains it's effectivness. I've had troops go from exhasted to warmed up after standing around for a bit while I tried and control my dancing skirmershers.

**Kraxis** · 09-16-2004, 15:35

Originally Posted by Tamur

I just did the same thing, with 4 units each of Hastati, Principes, and Triarii on each side (Julii vs Senate). I was defending, and parked my units in three lines on a small hill with my left flank covered by a big rock. I won without touching the mouse (except to get my Principes to charge in when the Hastati were getting worn down). 520 kills to 160 or something like that.

I've begun to think that, for the demo at least, the fatigue factor plays a much larger part than perhaps it will in the full version. The enemy had to march about 500 yards to engage my troops, who only had to march about 50 to position themselves on the hill.

As you said, with two equal armies you'd think the odds would be closer. But it's been pretty consistent that the army who marches more gets smacked pretty hard, given equal odds otherwise.

Seems about right, but at the same time I had a unit of Hastati do the opposite. Granted, it was against a unit of Swordsmen, but they didn't march much and they fought downhill. So either Hastati are very much superior to Swordsmen and will win basically any fight with them (which seems a bit strange given the Swordsmen seems to be the mainstay of Barb armies), or the Demo is very playerfriendly.