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MTW2? STW2? Thats just wishful thinking. I bet it NEVER happens. They aint gonna spend kazillions developing games that are already seen as 'old hat' 'been there before' 'nothing new there'.
Marketers just dont do that.
The Napoleonic thing sounds great. The NTW mod is great on MTW, so I dont see why it could'nt be done for a new game with the Rome engine. There's so much scope in this era, so much warfare and military development, both naval and land. It has to be a serious contender for the next one.
Marketers just dont do that.
The Napoleonic thing sounds great. The NTW mod is great on MTW, so I dont see why it could'nt be done for a new game with the Rome engine. There's so much scope in this era, so much warfare and military development, both naval and land. It has to be a serious contender for the next one.
Personally, I'd like to play RTW to death before worrying about what the next one is going to be. 
Originally Posted by CrackedAxe:
The Napoleonic thing sounds great. The NTW mod is great on MTW, so I dont see why it could'nt be done for a new game with the Rome engine. There's so much scope in this era, so much warfare and military development, both naval and land. It has to be a serious contender for the next one.
I would have agreed, until Imperial Glory came along. A Napoleonic Total War would be in direct competition with Imperial Glory, so CA may decide instead on MTW 2. Of course it won't be called that, and the being and end date may differ slightly, and the map may be slightly different, but using the RTW engine it would be quite cheap to develop - certainly not kazillions. By the way, in which country is the kaz the currency? The Napoleonic thing sounds great. The NTW mod is great on MTW, so I dont see why it could'nt be done for a new game with the Rome engine. There's so much scope in this era, so much warfare and military development, both naval and land. It has to be a serious contender for the next one.
Napoleonic Total War.......
Now there's one I certainly would not buy
.......Orda
Now there's one I certainly would not buy
.......Orda
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Ugh no - this would make TotalWar into an RTS, which is probably anathema to most people here. I personally need time to think whilst I'm planning my next move (and I don't want to have to keep pressing pause).
I would surely support the inclusion of a speed-slider in the campaign map with which you can slow down the game as much as you want, even to "real" time (a game minute per minute). This way you'll have enough time to think of your next move without pressing the pause button. Besides, thinking between turns, like we do in end-turn games, is like pressing a pause button and freezing time, making our moves and then pressing for the time to continue and reveal us the outcome of our strategies.Ugh no - this would make TotalWar into an RTS, which is probably anathema to most people here. I personally need time to think whilst I'm planning my next move (and I don't want to have to keep pressing pause).
A "constant-time" campaign map (i don't want to call it "real-time"...
), like the one i'm suggesting, will give a more "real" feeling to the game and therefore make it better, in my opinion. Check a game called "Europa Univeralis" to see a system similar to the one i'm suggesting.Originally Posted by :
As per RTW.
No, actually RTW has provinces and although you can move your armies freely inside them, you have to conquer their city in order to aquire them. Also, the troop-training and the profit making aspects may be city-related but they are actually also province-related since there is only one city per province. As you can see, the province system has not been completely abolished.As per RTW.
I would rather have no provinces at all, just cities and their areas of influence.
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These will add more depth to the game, but may make it too complicated for the average player - some reviews have already complained that RTW is too complicated.
Then the success of "Civilization" which includes these socio-politico-economical factors up to some point should really seem odd to these reviewers.These will add more depth to the game, but may make it too complicated for the average player - some reviews have already complained that RTW is too complicated.
I have a couple of dreams for the total war franchise.... I can't see them ever happening, but it would be so nice...
* World War 1 Total War : Imagine a Total War game based around World War 1? The European Theatre was the only main one in that war, so it could easily transfer to the strategic game. The tactical battles would be slightly harder to adapt, but I think could be done pretty easily.
Of Course, a World War 2 Total War would also be great, but much harder to do even if it only covered the European Theatre. Tanks and Airstrikes could make the battles really interesting.
* A Full World Map Total War, sort of like Europa Universalis 2, set in the era after Medieval Total War. I know, the scope is much too large, way too many unit types required, but as a dream game I like the idea.
* And lastly, Conquistador Total War. Massive Aztec, Mayan etc armies battling in the New World would be great. Those same armies against numerically inferior but technologically superior Spanish Armies would be amazing! And if you incorporate the era after the Spanish Conquests, you could have English, French, Dutch, and various Native American Factions too. This one I could see being done with the current Total War engines VERY easily.
Hope you like my dreams....
Colt.
* World War 1 Total War : Imagine a Total War game based around World War 1? The European Theatre was the only main one in that war, so it could easily transfer to the strategic game. The tactical battles would be slightly harder to adapt, but I think could be done pretty easily.
Of Course, a World War 2 Total War would also be great, but much harder to do even if it only covered the European Theatre. Tanks and Airstrikes could make the battles really interesting.
* A Full World Map Total War, sort of like Europa Universalis 2, set in the era after Medieval Total War. I know, the scope is much too large, way too many unit types required, but as a dream game I like the idea.
* And lastly, Conquistador Total War. Massive Aztec, Mayan etc armies battling in the New World would be great. Those same armies against numerically inferior but technologically superior Spanish Armies would be amazing! And if you incorporate the era after the Spanish Conquests, you could have English, French, Dutch, and various Native American Factions too. This one I could see being done with the current Total War engines VERY easily.
Hope you like my dreams....
Colt.
I'm thinking an entertaining prospect could be a merger between Civilisation and Total War - with the whole world up for grabs... the game would be rather epic in scope - and could be rather difficult to produce.
But imagine starting say with the rise of the civilisations in the Fertile Crescent, and ending say with the conquering of the New World? And of course, everything in between, ranging across the whole world.
Heh... The Esquimaux as a faction could be rather amusing...
But imagine starting say with the rise of the civilisations in the Fertile Crescent, and ending say with the conquering of the New World? And of course, everything in between, ranging across the whole world.
Heh... The Esquimaux as a faction could be rather amusing...
I pray and continue hoping for MTW2. I dont see how it would take so long... They allready have a campaign map of europe, and the engine is done. Alls thats needed is updated coding and new unit graphics? Not too sure but doesnt seem like it would take long and could make them lots of $$$ for minimal effort. Seems the next logical step for them, and if I was the president of the company I would do it for profits reason if nothing else.
I have always dreamed since I was a kid (I am 26 and grew up on atari and nintendo and Tandy 1000) of having a game like the TW series, and my ultimate dream would be for a TW game that encompasses the entire world (maybe even the new world) from the rise of greece to the industrial age. THAT would be the ultimate game. But of course I doubt that would ever happen anytime soon.
I have always dreamed since I was a kid (I am 26 and grew up on atari and nintendo and Tandy 1000) of having a game like the TW series, and my ultimate dream would be for a TW game that encompasses the entire world (maybe even the new world) from the rise of greece to the industrial age. THAT would be the ultimate game. But of course I doubt that would ever happen anytime soon.
I say a bit before greece and stoping around 1500s... because once guns get in the picture, theirs no fun.
I am hoping for a Denmark, Total War, with just 1 faction, Denmark, and just a one provence map, the word. That would be fun because after the first turn everyone would hate demark. j/k
I really want a Napoleonic, Total War, with Europe and America and hundreds of tiny provences and you take each turn = 1 day and you just recruit units but they are crap when you recruit them so if you want you can train them and the units would be huge, like regiment size and you can have like an army size army with tons of casualties per battle and with tons of micromangement so you can see all your officers in your regiments (have from Sergent to Major General under you command) and in battle they all have different uniforms and each regiment has a slightly different uniform and they all have numerical names and you can launch invasions where you get to bombard a fort from the sea and land troops near it kinda like a napoleonic d-day. Also, your men can go from Private to Major General depending on how many battles they survived and how many enemies they killed. Also where you only controll 1 general, not the king of the country, but you become a duke after like 3 major victories and controll like 10 minor provences and sooner or later you can become king if you stage a rebellion. Also, an improved valor system. And new gargantuan battle maps.
Maybe I am just dreaming (ok I am) but I would die for a game like that.
I really want a Napoleonic, Total War, with Europe and America and hundreds of tiny provences and you take each turn = 1 day and you just recruit units but they are crap when you recruit them so if you want you can train them and the units would be huge, like regiment size and you can have like an army size army with tons of casualties per battle and with tons of micromangement so you can see all your officers in your regiments (have from Sergent to Major General under you command) and in battle they all have different uniforms and each regiment has a slightly different uniform and they all have numerical names and you can launch invasions where you get to bombard a fort from the sea and land troops near it kinda like a napoleonic d-day. Also, your men can go from Private to Major General depending on how many battles they survived and how many enemies they killed. Also where you only controll 1 general, not the king of the country, but you become a duke after like 3 major victories and controll like 10 minor provences and sooner or later you can become king if you stage a rebellion. Also, an improved valor system. And new gargantuan battle maps.
Maybe I am just dreaming (ok I am) but I would die for a game like that.
I hope for STW 2
but I'd enjoy MTW 2
but I'd enjoy MTW 2
I suppose if CA don't do STW 2 or MTW 2 then they are bound to come out as mods, so don't lose all hope, you classic Total War fans. 
...but you might have a long wait, judging by the gestation period for some of the MTW mods.
...but you might have a long wait, judging by the gestation period for some of the MTW mods.
How about an eastern based TotalWar dealing primarily with the unification of the Mongol Hordes and their sweep through Asia and Eastern Europe/Arabia.
Mongols TW?
Genghis TW?
Mongols TW?
Genghis TW?
Antiaritca Total War!
Penguin Armies!
Penguin Armies!
Anyway... If they do decide to make an eastern total war involving the mongels or chinese I hope they make an engine that can handle 100000+ troops on the battlefield cause those armies were ALOT larger than your standard european ones. Would be a shame to conquer northern china as the mongels with 5000-10000 mongels...
Well the Mongols weren't that big... all steppe nomads infalted their numbers to insane porportions.
I want a medieval: totalwar 2, where the English where the clothing of the film braveheart which was a orange uniform.
But if CA plan on doing a game which is set inthr 1600+ then it would have to be around the time of Napolion or maybe the english civil war where theys still used pikes and swords and the revolt of the jacqobites would be an honour to crush
I just hope CA dont Rush it like they did with medieval totalwar.
But if CA plan on doing a game which is set inthr 1600+ then it would have to be around the time of Napolion or maybe the english civil war where theys still used pikes and swords and the revolt of the jacqobites would be an honour to crush
I just hope CA dont Rush it like they did with medieval totalwar.
i dont know who came up with MTW2 or why so many people think it will happen (who knows)
but someone said that CA had already done most of the time periods possible??
what about the period from when mtw ends to where the napoleanic era begins? huge wars there all over europe
and what about a huge world map covering the age of global european expansion?
that would be gnarly for the revolutionary game
im sure CA will think of something - but i totally doubt that the next game will be mtw
in 4 years time, maybe - with totally new engines and playing styles
but i think it would be redundant to do it with the total war engine - how many people would pay to see an updated MTW engine beside the most hardcore? (i know id buy it - but look at the numbers)
but someone said that CA had already done most of the time periods possible??
what about the period from when mtw ends to where the napoleanic era begins? huge wars there all over europe
and what about a huge world map covering the age of global european expansion?
that would be gnarly for the revolutionary game
im sure CA will think of something - but i totally doubt that the next game will be mtw
in 4 years time, maybe - with totally new engines and playing styles
but i think it would be redundant to do it with the total war engine - how many people would pay to see an updated MTW engine beside the most hardcore? (i know id buy it - but look at the numbers)
STW 2 for me plz
those japs are crazy i like them ("799 heads are taken" whoaaa)
and indeed NTW is a bad bad idea...
those japs are crazy i like them
("799 heads are taken" whoaaa)and indeed NTW is a bad bad idea...
People say thay would hate muskets and gun powerder era, but us Shogun players remember how we loved to hate muskets and they were usally great fun to use.
Originally Posted by Stormer:
People say thay would hate muskets and gun powerder era, but us Shogun players remember how we loved to hate muskets and they were usally great fun to use.
I hate how utterly useless guns are in medieval. You are lucky if they even get 1 round off, let alone cause any casualties.People say thay would hate muskets and gun powerder era, but us Shogun players remember how we loved to hate muskets and they were usally great fun to use.
It's a given that there will be one expansion for RTW, probably covering the collapse of the Empire and the invasion of the Goths.
For the game coming out two years from now, they'll be looking to use the same engine and basic gameplay as RTW, so guns are right out. I'd be very surprised if they don't cover the huge empires of the Ancient Near East at some point. Either that or the Spring-and-Summer or Warring-States periods in China, where Sun Tzu and Sun Pin grew up.
It's great fun to think of what games were like four years ago, compare them to Rome, and then project the incredibly lush, detailed graphics we'll get to see with the next engine...
For the game coming out two years from now, they'll be looking to use the same engine and basic gameplay as RTW, so guns are right out. I'd be very surprised if they don't cover the huge empires of the Ancient Near East at some point. Either that or the Spring-and-Summer or Warring-States periods in China, where Sun Tzu and Sun Pin grew up.
It's great fun to think of what games were like four years ago, compare them to Rome, and then project the incredibly lush, detailed graphics we'll get to see with the next engine...
WWII TOTAL WAR The panzers are comming! The panzers are comming!......
Ok time to get serious. I like the ideal for a expanded shogun total war that would include china, vietnam, korea, and other various places around there. Talk about strategy with the placement of forts.
Ok time to get serious. I like the ideal for a expanded shogun total war that would include china, vietnam, korea, and other various places around there. Talk about strategy with the placement of forts.
They should do Medieval India. There was a great thread about Indian military history in the monestary but it seems like it didn't survive the change on the org. It would have tons of variety in tactics and units and generaly be a kickass setting.
Shogun, Shogun, Shogun!!! I would like a Napolianic would be cool, but I really think that 3D Shogun would be the shiznit!!! 
I really don't think any of the WW1 or 2 would be great. It would look like a first person shooter more or less. There are plenty if those out on the market and saturated on different consoles.
3 Kingdoms would be awesome as well.
I really don't think any of the WW1 or 2 would be great. It would look like a first person shooter more or less. There are plenty if those out on the market and saturated on different consoles.
3 Kingdoms would be awesome as well.
:looks at new arrival: Arena is non-TW games, sending onwards.
I hope first for Ancient China (three kingdoms? dunno my chinese history well enough...thats why I want one)
Or India :)
But I wouldn't be dissapointed at a Medieval 2 or Shogun 2
Never been much of a fan of musketry but I doubt I'd be upset by Napoleonic:TW either
Or India :)
But I wouldn't be dissapointed at a Medieval 2 or Shogun 2
Never been much of a fan of musketry but I doubt I'd be upset by Napoleonic:TW either
Originally Posted by ShellShock:
Campaign MP is a problem that has yet to be solved, but there is a very large market for massive, immersive MP games.
Hear hear. ShellShock, campaign MP will be the next real "revolution", no doubt about it. Make it Napoleonic and you'll draw in a huge mass of new TW enthusiasts. Since logistics played such a large part in Napoleonic battles, the game might include three maps per turn. One campaign map, one intermediate map and one battle scene. The intermediate map would be a sort of close-up campaign map on which players move units around a province or border area in preparation for an upcoming battle. You get a limited amount of time to move your troops into position, then the fighting starts whether you like it or not.Campaign MP is a problem that has yet to be solved, but there is a very large market for massive, immersive MP games.
I think that they may consider Barbarian: Total War or something, around the time of the fall of the Romans and the setting in of the dark ages (about 200-300 AD, I'm not sure). Maybe it's too similar to Rome: Total War, I don't know.
A MTW 2 would be great, as would a Napoleonic TW. I'm sure whatever they do, it'll be great :)
A MTW 2 would be great, as would a Napoleonic TW. I'm sure whatever they do, it'll be great :)
Eurasia: Total War
spanning from the UK in the west, to Japan in the East.
starting in the year 900AD, going on to 1500AD
that would be ace.
but Wheel of Time: Total War would be great too.
spanning from the UK in the west, to Japan in the East.
starting in the year 900AD, going on to 1500AD
that would be ace.
but Wheel of Time: Total War would be great too.
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