The BIG (american) RTW feedback thread!

[Silver Rusher]

Ah yes, in one day you americans will witness the release of RTW. As I come from the UK, I will not have this great honour/pleasure until a week on Friday, so I still have to wait quite a while. But, as always, I want as much info on the game as humanly possible, so could you post screenshots, info on factions, units etc and general feedback HERE.

Thanks,

Silver Rusher

[Thoros of Myr]

Since I'm waiting for initial impressions of the folks here before I buy I'll be watching this space aswell...

[tombom]

Since I'm waiting for initial impressions of the folks here before I buy I'll be watching this space aswell...

So will I, but mainly because I coem from england.

[Stormer]

Well personally i wanna play the game and then get to see all the cool stuff its a lot better then reading other people experiencing the best parts of the game. So im offically banning myself from this thread.

[The_Emperor]

Well there you have it...

Your friends from across the atlantic you have a right to inform us in this thread.

[Silver Rusher]

Hmm... Mods, do you think this could be stickied?

IMO it's a very useful thread for anybody, whether ur a brit or an american, to find out people's first impressions of the game.

[Colovion]

I'm actually Canadian...

[Myrddraal]

I want to see to find out more about the game, but I don't want to see because it will make me want the game even more...

*tears out his hair in desperation*

[Plantagenet]

I've purposely avoided reading anything about RTW for months because I wanted it to be a surprise. No previews, no screenshots, and especially no demos. Well, since its now upon us and I've just built a new system, I started reading this morning...

WTF is this about no provinces?! Why not? These are the people who INVENTED "provinces" for God's sake! If they're not appropriate here, then in what game are they? After seeing CA mangle the map of medieval Europe (a Google search will produce a more accurate map in 30 seconds), I thought "at least they won't have that problem for Rome" since province maps of the Empire are as easy to find as a cop when you don't need one.

If you want it based on cities instead, then make an ancient GREEK game. Their history revolved around city-states. This is Rome. Their empire consisted of territorial subdivisions called PROVINCES, for which they even coined a new term: PROVINCES.

If I wanted one big sloppy borderless spread of a map, I'd play Lords of the Realm III, Age of Empires, or any of the other "historical" games I've deemed too stupid to pay for. One of the reasons I loved STW & MTW was that they were refreshing and unlike the usual crap thats all too common in this genre. So why ruin it now?

[Barkhorn1x]

WTF is this about no provinces?! Why not?

You've not read enough, dude. There are provinces - and there is 1 city per province. See this link;
http://www.totalwar.com/community/provmap.htm

BTW, you're in the wrong thread.

Barkhorn.

[Barkhorn1x]

As a typical "Ugly American" who is damn proud to get the game first - because we can - I will be happy to give information once I've had a chance to play a bit.

I'll be back.

Barkhorn.

[Colovion]

I've purposely avoided reading anything about RTW for months because I wanted it to be a surprise. No previews, no screenshots, and especially no demos. Well, since its now upon us and I've just built a new system, I started reading this morning...

WTF is this about no provinces?! Why not? These are the people who INVENTED "provinces" for God's sake! If they're not appropriate here, then in what game are they? After seeing CA mangle the map of medieval Europe (a Google search will produce a more accurate map in 30 seconds), I thought "at least they won't have that problem for Rome" since province maps of the Empire are as easy to find as a cop when you don't need one.

If you want it based on cities instead, then make an ancient GREEK game. Their history revolved around city-states. This is Rome. Their empire consisted of territorial subdivisions called PROVINCES, for which they even coined a new term: PROVINCES.

If I wanted one big sloppy borderless spread of a map, I'd play Lords of the Realm III, Age of Empires, or any of the other "historical" games I've deemed too stupid to pay for. One of the reasons I loved STW & MTW was that they were refreshing and unlike the usual crap thats all too common in this genre. So why ruin it now?

easy cowboy - there are Provinces, but not like the Risk Styled ones in MTW - they're more realistic.

You seem to think that borderless spreads of the map are not historic - but since when if you invade someone's territory to they say "oh, they're coming over from Flanders - my army just so happens to be ready to fight!" and if two armies invaded that Province it also seems that all the armies find the same patch of ground to fight for.

As you can see I like the way the new system is setup.

[crazyviking03]

As with the MTW and VI, I will by Rome on the first day it is in stores. I will hopefully be able to pull myself away from the game to do some posting here eventually!

[Silver Rusher]

Ooh, I am the complete opposite of you. I must have knowledge, and although many of you agree that it is foolish to think that having more juicy, mouth-watering info actually lightens the pressure, but I am a TW addict, as was the path chosen for me by the Almighty.

Grr, if it gets delayed again I'm gonna commit suicide!!!

[Ldvs]

Ooh, I am the complete opposite of you. I must have knowledge, and although many of you agree that it is foolish to think that having more juicy, mouth-watering info actually lightens the pressure, but I am a TW addict, as was the path chosen for me by the Almighty.

Grr, if it gets delayed again I'm gonna commit suicide!!!

I think "addict" is not strong enough to describe yourself in this case

[Plantagenet]

easy cowboy - there are Provinces, but not like the Risk Styled ones in MTW - they're more realistic.

You seem to think that borderless spreads of the map are not historic - but since when if you invade someone's territory to they say "oh, they're coming over from Flanders - my army just so happens to be ready to fight!" and if two armies invaded that Province it also seems that all the armies find the same patch of ground to fight for.

As you can see I like the way the new system is setup.

Well, since the "borderless spreads" you mention are usually bordered by a big square or magnification box that arbitrarily cuts them off (LoTR3), no, I'm not fond of them. Every game I've ever seen like that sucked. The province system used by games like STW and EU2 is much better IMO as long as the game isn't RTS.

But thanks to yourself and Barkhorn, I see I had the wrong impression anyway (or maybe just read the wrong preview)! I'm looking at the Province Profiles now (thanks for the link!), and am more eager than ever to get my hands on RTW...I've never been so happy to be proven wrong!

[Colovion]

yeah - I understand that it can be annoying to have such borderless territories. I guess it depends on how they implimented it. In the Civilization games it was setup rather well and I could work with that pretty well. I've heard that the campaign map plays a lot like Civ3 (with some differences of course). I guess I have grown up with the Civilization Series so to me this isn't too big of a change (and a welcome one at that).

[Silver Rusher]

Help me out here, in GMT does the game actually come out today or tomorrow?

[Ldvs]

Ranging from GMT -4 to GMT -8 for North America.
The game is shipped today Silver, not sold yet.

[The Black Ship]

The game is on the way to my EBgames store today, Wed. 22nd, and will arrive tomorrow, Thurs. 23rd...I know, I just happened to stop by at noon today!

[Colovion]

Only one or two people I've heard of have the game through purchasing at a store. One on the .Com and one at TWC. Most stores should get the game sometime today so it just depends on how far away your store is from where it's being shipped and if they'll let you have a copy. Mine is being delivered to my house so I expect it here tomorrow. I wouldn't complain if I find it at my door when I get home from work though.

[Oaty]

Are the stores at any kind of disclosure not to sell until the 23rd or can they sell it as soon as they get it. I know some stores say the heck with the rules but the 1 I preordered from seems to making a statement that theres not a chance in hell I'm going to get this game. I wonder if they do that just to stop people from swarming all day or what the deal is.

[Thoros of Myr]

Today is the official release date, its fair game.

[Colovion]

Today is the official release date, its fair game.

Yep. Best bet is to call all of the stores in your area later in the afternoon to see if they have it in.

Now I have to play the waiting game..... damn you UPS

[Oaty]

Well gamestop site finally says call the store woohoo!!!!!!! well time to go bother them

[Silver Rusher]

Arg, I am writhing with jealousy with you yanks right now. But I am also excited not only to get the game when it comes out in the UK, but also to see more screens and info on it that i haven't seen/read before.

[andrewt]

My gamespot is getting it tomorrow before noon and I live in Southern California.

[Jacque Schtrapp]

I just spent thirty repeatedly interrupted minutes talking to the manager of the Electronics Boutique near my house. He was constantly having to answer the phone to field "is it in yet?" questions. Looks like RTW may make a bigger splash than anticipated.

[Thoros of Myr]

It's huge, i'm not kidding. I just got off the phone with yet another EB, he says they almost have pre-orders enough to sell every last copy in thier first shipment and that I better pre-order now if I want it tomorrow. So I did, first time I have pre-ordered in 6 years.

The hype has cuaght me up for sure, I WAS supposed to be waiting for reviews and impressions first...oh well

[crushinator]

It's huge, i'm not kidding. I just got off the phone with yet another EB, he says they almost have pre-orders enough to sell every last copy in thier first shipment and that I better pre-order now if I want it tomorrow. So I did, first time I have pre-ordered in 6 years.

The hype has cuaght me up for sure, I WAS supposed to be waiting for reviews and impressions first...oh well

Wow this is fantastic news for CA & TW fans (except those fans who miss out on a copy tomorrow )

congrats CA, looks like all the hard work has paid off