RTW has naval 3D battles? Why not?

**panchoamd** · 09-22-2004, 16:11

RTW, has a 3d naval battles?
If not, why?
I lIke naval batles in 3d...

RTW, tiene batallas navales en 3D?
Si no, porqué?
A mi me gustarian batallas navales en 3D...

**eddeduck** · 09-22-2004, 16:40

The people at CA wanted to do real time sea battles but decided not to because with the land battles and the sea battles the game would take too long. So they have done them abstactly as in MTW.

**maestro** · 09-22-2004, 16:44

I'm sure the Devs posted something about this. To paraphrase (and apologies if I have this wrong) they said:

It would have taken faaaaar too long to develop proper naval battles in RTW. Even with the game's release date put back yet another year (2005 release) there still probably wouldn't have been something they could be proud of which was as good as the rest of the game. And they really didn't want to do a half-assed attempt which would have been rubbished by the fans.

So they left it out innit.

**Colovion** · 09-22-2004, 18:43

plus I can see naval battles being very frusterating and very long - once cannons were invented they got more interesting from a gameplay perspective but how would you like to slowly sail around perhaps missing other ships while trying to ram them, then sloooooly arcing around for another try while your crew and theirs gets pelted by archers in either boat, then finally perhaps boarding the other ship for a short battle which would be more suited to a pirate game than Total War.

I dont' see it happening for the pre-gunpowder era, ever - unless I'm sorely mistaken by the ancient naval warfare

**panchoamd** · 09-22-2004, 20:23

To colovion: why no command a thouthands of ships, in battles like Accio?
No neccesary must slow...

Samurai Steve · 09-22-2004, 23:26

2005!?

Huh!? I just pre-ordered it today, they said it shipped today and should arrive tomorrow!

**Tamur** · 09-22-2004, 23:30

Steve, he was speaking hypothetically...

I have yet to play a really FUN naval battle simulation. Anyone want to point one out? I've played a few (Port Royale being one with cannons) and they become drudgery very quickly it seems. I think it's just the nature of ships -- they don't respond instantly to commands like a foot or horse unit can.

**Colovion** · 09-23-2004, 00:40

exactly - it would take like 5 seconds (at the least) for the ship to begin to obey your orders, by the time they did it would be a sloooooooooooow turn and then ok... now it's time to put up the sails... ok not enough wind break out the oars.... ok now let's go like this for 4 miles..... hey there's an enemy ship..... turn towards it... slowly......... noooo it's turning away.... come baaack

**Ldvs** · 09-22-2004, 16:44

Unfortunately RTW don't feature naval battles. Answer quoted from the FAQ :

"Q. How important is Naval units in RTW. How do you get your men across the Mediterranean Sea, with out walking.

A: Naval combat is abstract in Rome: Total War. The emphasis in the game is on land battles - the Romans were, after all, soldiers rather than sailors - and we've been working hard to make them as insanely great as possible. Unlike M:TW fleets now carry passengers from place to place. An army has to march onto a fleet, be carried to its destination, and then disembark. While the army is aboard it can be lost through enemy action and natural disaster, and a storm can wipe out an invasion force just as surely as enemy triremes!"