3v3 is max for RTW

**RTKLamorak** · 09-24-2004, 18:43

wow, how quickly the excitment has been killed for me (i have read that there is 4v4 i am refering to everything else). How the hell can it have been in the works since shogun, and the MP still be in this state?!?! The fact that problems from MTW 1.0 have appeared again is just ..... .

**Shahed** · 09-24-2004, 18:50

RTW is a primarily SP game, I imagine, like MTW was. I gave it on TW MP coz there isnt the will to make it playable. I'll play RTW, but mostly single player i think, sadly.

**Orda Khan** · 09-24-2004, 23:17

Originally Posted by Sinan

RTW is a primarily SP game, I imagine, like MTW was. I gave it on TW MP coz there isnt the will to make it playable. I'll play RTW, but mostly single player i think, sadly.

Hey Sinan, hope you are well.
I agree with you my friend, RTW does seem geared more to SP than the previous titles but certain things are just so bizarre as to border on comedy. One player, one faction !!! What kind of rubbish is this??? That was patched out of MTW so how has that turned up again?

3v3 max !!!!!!
How will that impact the Clan structure of TW MP community? What's the point in being in a Clan now? Unless these perhaps form sub Clans? Tourneys would be difficult...Celtibero could field about four 3 man teams on any given night.
Given the choice of a huge 4v4 struggle on a massive map, or sweet new graphics and 3v3 max, I'd pick the former every time. 3D graphics, lovely as they are, become worthless in battle, they are only good for watching replays IMO.

Create your own Historical battles and play these online with yer mates
What's the point in this? Can I create a nice 3v3 Parthia v Rome?

Good grief this is such a shambles!!!

I accept SP sounds astounding and I am so pleased to hear this but I'm afraid I agree with Mitch, it's the battles that make this game and it soon gets boring beating the AI which requires false stat increases to give you some competition.

I just expected much more after all the hype

.......Orda

**TosaInu** · 09-24-2004, 23:23

16v16 would be nice.

**Shahed** · 09-25-2004, 18:00

Originally Posted by Orda Khan

Hey Sinan, hope you are well.
I agree with you my friend, RTW does seem geared more to SP than the previous titles but certain things are just so bizarre as to border on comedy. One player, one faction !!! What kind of rubbish is this??? That was patched out of MTW so how has that turned up again?

3v3 max !!!!!!
How will that impact the Clan structure of TW MP community? What's the point in being in a Clan now? Unless these perhaps form sub Clans? Tourneys would be difficult...Celtibero could field about four 3 man teams on any given night.
Given the choice of a huge 4v4 struggle on a massive map, or sweet new graphics and 3v3 max, I'd pick the former every time. 3D graphics, lovely as they are, become worthless in battle, they are only good for watching replays IMO.

Create your own Historical battles and play these online with yer mates
What's the point in this? Can I create a nice 3v3 Parthia v Rome?

Good grief this is such a shambles!!!

I accept SP sounds astounding and I am so pleased to hear this but I'm afraid I agree with Mitch, it's the battles that make this game and it soon gets boring beating the AI which requires false stat increases to give you some competition.

I just expected much more after all the hype

.......Orda

Greetings Old Friend. Everything's great..actually don't have mcuh time to play games nowadays but I'll try play some RTW once I get my copy.

I'm not taking it seriously anymore. I'm never going to get disappointed after MTW MP, that was disappointment enough...but I still played it coy I was such a TW lover (read: fool).

I can't care less anymore to be honest. I had a bad feeling that RTW MP will be utterly thrash and from the reports we have so far, there is no reason to think otherwise. It's unfortunate that all these old problems are once again into MP for another TW title. We already went through this for MTW, and if after all that it's back again then what can I say. Still I had had hoped that RTW: MP will be good, too bad it isn't (form current reports).

I won't be playing any MP at all, I have'nt got the time to waste. If it's good in SP, which I expect it to be, then I'll play some of that. As far as MP is concerned I can only say what I been saying since ages..forget Total War for MP, it's not worth the hassle, I think.

Salute !

Edit: sorry for typos

**Skomatth** · 09-25-2004, 20:42

We should have predicted this, even before the demo. There was a bunch of hype, but none of it concerned MP. Does anyone remember the date of MTW release? I want to go back and read the threads on that. Certainly there were gameplay issues, but not interface ones.

**Puzz3D** · 09-26-2004, 01:03

MTW v1.0 was released around Sept 1, 2002, and the v1.1 patch came out around Nov 1, 2002.

**CBR** · 09-26-2004, 01:13

IIRC US release was aug 23 and 1.1 came out early nov..5-7

CBR

**Orda Khan** · 09-27-2004, 16:58

Originally Posted by Sinan

I can't care less anymore to be honest. I had a bad feeling that RTW MP will be utterly thrash and from the reports we have so far, there is no reason to think otherwise. It's unfortunate that all these old problems are once again into MP for another TW title. We already went through this for MTW, and if after all that it's back again then what can I say. Still I had had hoped that RTW: MP will be good, too bad it isn't (form current reports).

I won't be playing any MP at all, I have'nt got the time to waste. If it's good in SP, which I expect it to be, then I'll play some of that. As far as MP is concerned I can only say what I been saying since ages..forget Total War for MP, it's not worth the hassle, I think.

Salute !

Edit: sorry for typos

You seem busy Sinan

No doubt you will still frequent the forums if not the foyer?
Yes, MTW was a mess wasn't it? To think we spent two years trying to sort that game out and then RTW turns up

I've made some good, true friends through MP and it's a shame that some were driven away by poor/lack of MP support. I think quite a lot more will call time now.
You are probably right, perhaps it is time to walk away from TW

......Orda

**RTKLamorak** · 09-27-2004, 17:02

Originally Posted by Orda Khan

I've made some good, true friends through MP and it's a shame that some were driven away by poor/lack of MP support. I think quite a lot more will call time now.
You are probably right, perhaps it is time to walk away from TW

**Aelwyn** · 09-27-2004, 17:44

I was thinking about this yesterday. Forgive me if I sound overly dramatic but I really feel this way, its almost as if they WANT to piss off and get rid of the MP community. After all, who are always their biggest critics? And I heard theres a server limit...? Why would you EVER do that?

Well we want people to enjoy the game....when they are allowed to.

?

The way I feel right now, trained monkeys could have made a better multiplayer. And I'm not just saying that to be hurtful to anyone who made the game. I really do feel like no effort whatsoever was given to multiplayer. Isn't there usually a person who's main job is to work on Multi? Wasn't Gil that person for a while? I doubt one CA person has even logged on to see how things work. Maybe thats because they don't care, or maybe thats because they are trying to get on when the server is FULL.