How often does your faction produce heirs?

**Bob the Insane** · 09-25-2004, 09:18

Jealous guy from the UK here...

Does the whole family tree thing work the same way for the non-roman factions???

**frogbeastegg** · 09-25-2004, 10:15

Gameless UK person question - so you can't control your family at all, not even choose who and when to adopt? So the Roman pater familias who (historcially) can sell his family into slavery or kill them on a whim can't even tell his idiot son to get married to lady X? Mr pater familias has no power over his family? Please tell me I'm wrong; goofy helmets I can live with but inaccuracy like that really hurts.

**Basileus** · 09-25-2004, 10:44

First time i tryed the Brutii my family was huge, second time though the son of my leader got to 65 before he got a heir in there from his daughter heh..its preety random i reckon

**Quietus** · 09-25-2004, 10:53

I've played 15-16 years already and my faction has produced a grand total of 1 daughter

That is weird Andrew. I just got a my 6th family member, 1 is adopted.

**Jeanne d'arc** · 09-25-2004, 15:52

If someone would be so kind to answer frogbeastegg's and bob the insane's questions please?

**Praylak** · 09-25-2004, 16:00

Originally Posted by frogbeastegg

Gameless UK person question - so you can't control your family at all, not even choose who and when to adopt?

Not exactly. At times I was prompted to either accept or refuse a marriage. Thats a choice, of course I always take it. And your family members are mobile units (as in MTW) so you choose who is govenor of what city. As well you can change which son will be the factions hier.

I mean that is some power over your family isn't it?

**Jacque Schtrapp** · 09-25-2004, 16:05

I went through a dry spell that lasted at least 20 turns. Then my faction leader died and when his heir took over the family began producing babies like rabbits.

Sorry I can't answer that Bob, I haven't unlocked any factions by destroying them. I am close to wiping out the Greek Cities though, if I do manage to annihilate them I'll start a new campaign anf play a few turns to see if their family tree functions the same way as the Romans.

**Bob the Insane** · 09-25-2004, 16:07

Originally Posted by Praylak

prompted to either accept or refuse a marriage

Interesting, but you can't setup marriges yourself? Even as part of deplomacy??

**Jacque Schtrapp** · 09-25-2004, 16:12

Originally Posted by Bob the Insane

Interesting, but you can't setup marriges yourself? Even as part of deplomacy??

Not so far. It doesn't appear that you need marriages to affect diplomacy since there are so many other factors: demand/offer money, demand/offer province, trade rights, map exchange, safe passage and various other things. It also seems the AI factions are well programmed to use these functions in both initiating and accepting offers as well as countering or refusing inadvantageous offers.

**Bob the Insane** · 09-25-2004, 18:13

Sorry to repeat, but I am really looking forward to controling the world with my barbarian family....

Does the whole family tree thing work the same way for the non-roman factions???

**Tamur** · 09-25-2004, 18:31

Hmm, good question. Anyone played non-Roman and know whether you've got a family tree to work with?

The family is a really wonderful hook. I've got one guy who was a LOUSY governor (took bribes, allowed tax evasion, added squalor) but I moved him out into the battlefield and he's been raking in the Senate positions -- Consul three years ago, and Consul again this year, with five cities conquered. I moved him out into the field in the hopes that he'd get himself killed, he was that bad of a governor. But he's been really kicking the Macedonians to bits out there! Besides, it's always nice to have a Consul in the family.

However, since he became consul I've noticed that he's starting to give himself surnames! At first he was simply Aulus Scipii, but now he's been:

- Aulus Victor
- Aulus the Lucky

and he's currently calling himself Aulus the Majestic.

**Jeanne d'arc** · 09-25-2004, 18:48

Originally Posted by Bob the Insane

Sorry to repeat, but I am really looking forward to controling the world with my barbarian family....

Does the whole family tree thing work the same way for the non-roman factions???

Well i am betting they have it, after all one must have a leader in a large faction in order to work as a whole , even the barbarian ones.Maybe even more a bit adoption based with the barbarians sinds they consisted of many tribes alltogether with eich there leaders.