Stw Mp

[todaswarriors]

Moshi Moshi !!

Hehe Maybe i will appear for some Gekido no Tochi here & there :)

[Jochi Khan]

Might have guessed

Jochi

[Togakure]

Ishida Hiraga, Anskar Hojo, and I will attempt to access the fakeserver tomorrow and perhaps on Sunday. I have not yet replaced my Internet.cfg file, but it seems a simple task.

I've spoken to others who have made the changes and attempted to log in to the fakeserver. They hang at "Logging In ... ." I'll be in a better position to help them once I've successfully accessed the fakeserver myself, but I've suggested that they tune in here. Hopefully folks will be as helpful as they've ever been.

I have a slow connection but can host 1v1 and 2v2. Anskar has a nice connection and can host 3v3s, and perhaps, 4v4s for players with fast connections. He is, however, experiencing the log in problem, so hopefully we can resolve that tomorrow.

I/we look forward to some fun games. Thanks to Tosa for making it possible to play again.

Edit: I will try to access around 11 a.m.-12 p.m. PST, which is 7-8 p.m. GMT I believe. Ansk and Ishi indicated they will try at about the same time. If we have problems we'll tap in to this thread. We are also on MSN Messenger; my addy is funkymonk002@hotmail.com.

[Togakure]

Hiya. Ishi, Ansk, Gaijin and I are all on MSN. We tried to connect to the fakeserver but after about 60 seconds of "Connecting ..." we get "Failed to connect." My guess is the fakeserver is not running yet. So, I'm posting to let everyone who is interested know that there are people ready and willing to play some STW/MI MP if the fakeserver is brought up. I will monitor this thread until I hear from someone (or until such time passes that we give up and find something else to do). Hopefully we'll hear from someone soon and get some games going. A good time to come and kick my arse--I haven't touched the game since May and I'm sure I suck pretty bad . Anyway, hope to hear from someone soon.

I'm funkymonk002@hotmail.com on MSN Messenger. If you'd like to join Ishi, Ansk, Gaijin and me for a chat while we wait just add me and message me.

[PaolinoPaperino]

Oh.. I am not sure, but I think Tosa said only sunday.

[HicRic]

I always used to hang on "logging in..." with the original STW/MI server. It could be a problem intrinsic to the game or maybe the server just wasn't up at the times you're trying.

[Togakure]

Oh ok, thanks Pao. For some reason I had it in my head "weekends." I guess we will try tomorrow. Ishi just told me that the planned time period was from 19-23 GMT ... is this correct? That would be 11am - 3pm for us PST people in USA West.

Thanks again for letting us know so we didn't end up sitting around for an undue amount of time. Hopefully we will catch you for some games tomorrow. Ciao for now.

[Togakure]

Ok folks, wanting to play today rather than wait until tomorrow, Methos has downloaded and installed Fakeserver succesfully. I am sitting in his foyer right now, and all looks as it ever did on the official server.

However, for some reason he cannot get in! Can the fakeserver host access and play using the same computer that is running the fakeserver? He can see me sitting in the foyer via his fakeserver control panel, but can't log in himself.

Does anyone know offhand what he needs to do so he can log in and we can get to some head-collecting? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Edit: Meth is running Windows XP with Roadrunner cable service. Putting his own IP in the Internet config file dumped him to the desktop. Changing it to localhost resulted in him hanging at "connecting ...," eventually resulting in a "failed to connect." I have since sent him choice.com which has been copied into ../system and ../system32. No change resulted. Again, help is much appreciated.

[Togakure]

Problem solved. The oh so pervasive numeric transposition, hehe. Now for some headz!

[TosaInu]

Hello,

The server is running now and will remain doing so for another 8 hours or so.

I don't have a problem with running it more often, but this has a downside:

it's of very little use to run it all week when only one person uses it per hour, a narrow window helps to concentrate the users. It will run other days when people agree on a time.

TogakureOjonin
The host can enter his own server, even when he's playing on the same machine. It's possible that he has to use a different IP though (for example because of a router). That can be found with winipcfg.exe on 98, and typing IPconfig in XP console.

[Jochi Khan]

Hi all.

Still having problems with the Fakeserver. :o(

Today I had six attempts to loggon....each time got to...Logging On...page.
Then I had an instant.... logged on.
Was in the foyer with 7Bear7 Yogi and Redwolf joined later.
Neither Yogi nor myself could host a game that could be seen. (although I was in Game Foyer) each time I hosted but Yogi couldn't join and vice versa. I had the ports open to allow me to host.
When Redwolf hosted a test game I could see it but was ...unable to join... this game.
Logged out and relogged after another 6 attempts got back in. Patience heh

Now since I logged out of stw I have been unable to get back in. Just reaches the ...Loggin On ...page each time.
It is now16.30 BST will try again after I have eaten.

......Jochi

[todaswarriors]

Konnichiwa
Toda logged in fine at 16:45 GMT...17th oct
I have tested with Red & can host fine..
hehe :o)
Ikimasho !!!

[PaolinoPaperino]

Just been in, and played a test game with Toda(great fantasy about names in Mizu uh? :P)
Server working, and game visible and played it, but get an unhappy problem with disconnection from the foyer, me and him at the same time. I had to restart game to solved it, but it happens again.

BTW Jochi, that issue with the logging happened to me as well, solved just relogging using another family name. :)

[Togakure]

"TogakureOjonin
The host can enter his own server, even when he's playing on the same machine. It's possible that he has to use a different IP though (for example because of a router). That can be found with winipcfg.exe on 98, and typing IPconfig in XP console."

Thanks for the information Tosa. I'll pass it along, and tuck it away in my notes as well just in case I decide to run a server sometime in the future. Fun games to all :).

Edit: took out system quote because it was messed up by my editing.

[HicRic]

Hi, I'm interested in playing STW MP. I think it's too late for me to play today now, but I'll try next week. However, I don't think I can remember my username/password/family name. What should I do? Should I just enter anything and it'll be accepted, or do I need to register a new account? (Where should I do that?)

Been trying to play STW MP for months but only now have a decent connection and PC, only to find out EA don't serve anymore. I'm glad Tosa has kindly provided us with a server instead.

[Togakure]

Hello HicRic. I'm not sure if you can still register and create character IDs now that the official server is down. Hopefully you will remember your ID and password when you get to the login screen.

If not, and you cannot register a new character ID, here's a last resort: if all you need is one to use, and assuming it is possible to use any that has been previously registered, you're welcome to use one of my spares (I have at least 20). The only down side is, you won't be able to choose your name or family, and I will know your password. I will not use the ID once turned over to you. From that point on it would be yours.

Contact me via MSN Messenger (or e-mail) if you choose to exercise this option. I am 47RoninToga, funkymonk002@hotmail.com.

[LittleGrizzly]

on fakeserver you can type in any name you want no need to register

also if you are having problems a different name "might" help

[HicRic]

Thank you for the kind offer, TogakureOjonin, but by the sounds of it I can use the name I wish on the fakeserver.

I'll be seeing you guys there next sunday!

(If anyone wants to win a game, play HicRic. Sure, I'm pretty good at SP...but I have the feeling that having never played MP will mean I'll get rather beaten. It'll still be good fun though, I'm sure!)

[Jochi Khan]

Hi All....

No problems logging after.

Many good battles.

Win or lose..enjoy..have fun..thats the main thing.

Looking forward to next Sunday.

..Jochi

[Kas]

Old Kassie likes to play Shoggie...what do I need? STW/MI? Patch? And where can I find the patches? New pc...lost all Shoggie updates

[Sasaki Kojiro]

totalwar.com should still have the patch, and if you go to files at the top of the forum you can get the statswapper.

[Togakure]

Hey there HicRic ... glad that you will be able to play without needing and ID. I wasn't sure that my idea would work anyway--as there is no place online that stores my IDs, it stands to reason that they wouldn't work for you. I just put that out there as a last resort to try if you weren't able to play otherwise.

KAS: it will be very, very good to have your company again, my friend. You have been sorely missed, and not just by me. So far, everyone has been using MI and 1.02. Some of us intend to test out 1.03 and 1.05 soon, and I can't think of any reason why they wouldn't work, providing all players in the game are using them, as before.

I still have the Statswapper we released at the Masterless, which provides 1.03 and 1.05 and the ability to swap between 1.02, 1.03 and 1.05 easily. The installation program also puts Choice.com where it needs to be for XP users and makes the install a snap. It's not available online for download anymore as I don't have a server to host it on, but I can send it to anyone that wants to use it. They just have to contact me via e-mail and request it. My addy is still funkymonk002@hotmail.com.

I am thinking it would also be easy to modify and re-release the statswapper to allow for swapping between fakeservers as well, using the same methods of swapping files in and out as the statswapper swaps stat files. The modification would just swap internet.cfg files instead. That would make it easy to switch from different fakeservers and play wherever the players are. I'll look into it when I have some time (and I'm not playing :) ).

Sasaki: Are you going to get your CDs from the homestead? STW wouldn't be the same without everyone cringing in fear of having you oppose them. Plus, I would enjoy the opportunity of beating you once in a great while, like old times. That was always something to be proud of, as arguably there is no better 1v1 STW MP player out there. Hope to see you sometime soon.

Cheers, everyone :). It makes me very happy to see the Shoggie lovers coming back. And the new faces too!

[TosaInu]

TogakureOjonin's statswapper: http://www.mizus.com/Files/k0rgs8gVt/stats.shtml
STW MI Euro patch http://www.mizus.com/Files/k0rgs8gVt/packs.shtml
Other patches are in the downloadsection.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sasaki: Are you going to get your CDs from the homestead? STW wouldn't be the same without everyone cringing in fear of having you oppose them. Plus, I would enjoy the opportunity of beating you once in a great while, like old times. That was always something to be proud of, as arguably there is no better 1v1 STW MP player out there. Hope to see you sometime soon.

I'm sure my mom wouldn't send them to me...I might see if I can pick it up in town somehow. I have a mouse for my laptop now so I could conceivably play.

[Togakure]

Well I hope you are successful in getting MI again Sasaki m8, online play would not be the same without you chasing me/us all over the field.

**

I wasn't aware that you had the version of the swapper I modified available on the Mizu site, TosaInu. I'm glad you are able to make it available online. Just for the record folks: Tosa and the Mizus made the swapper. I just put an install wrapper around it and included choice.com for XP users, as many people were having trouble getting it installed correctly "back in the day."

When I make a mod to it that includes swapping fakeservers, I'll provide a copy so it can be hosted for download if you like. I won't be able to test it until Sunday when both servers are up, but I'll see if I can't fit in some dev time this week so I can test this coming Sunday.

***

We had some fun games on Methos' server today. There were some "ghosts in the machine," but they weren't show-stoppers. Not a lot of people: Anskar, Ishida, TenkiSora and me ... but enough to have some fun. Ishida played a brilliant defense against Anskar and me on Shinano. He took 16/4 max and used 20K, while we took 12/3 max and used 10K each (yeah a lot of koku I realize, but we experiment a lot with 2v1 scenarios). He wasn't where we'd expected him to be at game start, and he caught me with my pants down, so-to-speak. After sending my guys running with an unexpected charge, he turned around and managed to defeat Anskar's counterattack as well. Quite an excellent game!

All are welcome, so join us if you have the inclination. Methos will send the internet.cfg information to anyone that requests it by posting at the 47 forum.

here's a link: http://p203.ezboard.com/b47chushingura

On Sundays though, we will be playing on Tosa's server. The more the merrier! Hope to see you all in Shoggieland soon.

[Kas]

I replaced the internet config file with the one Methos send me, but I keep stuck in the "Logging On". No error message just stuck there

I've a brand new high end pc, with a clean MI install (v1.02), 4Mb ADSL, so I don't have a clue what's wrong.

I've Norton Antivirus 2005 and the Win SP2 firewall installed....even with all shut down...same

Kas

[Togakure]

Hi Kas. That was happening to Anskar too for a bit but we got past it somehow. If only I could remember how ... d'oh! We tried a lot of different things. Anyway, I should be online later on tonight, so I'll look for you. We can try a few things and see if they get you through. Sooner or later (hopefully sooner) we'll get it figured out.

Methos' configuration is different from Tosa's. I have both files and will give you Tosa's too. Tosa's server will be the place to be on Sundays, as there are more people on it. Meth, Ishi, me and the other active 47s will be coming to Tosa's server. During the week at "prime time," however, my guess is we'll still see 4-8 people on Meth's server for games, maybe even a few more once the word spreads. There are people missing that I know would play regularly if they knew about this. Just have to get in contact with them.

I'll check on MSN for you a bit later m8. Hopefully cya then.

[Jochi Khan]

Hi Kas

Long time no see...

I had the same problem as you last Sunday. Kept hanging at Logging On page.

Just keep logging on and logging off....eventually you will connect.

Strange but true.

Yes Toga, there were some good games played.

Some of us were very rusty but was good to get back into Shoggy.

Playing the 1.03 stat would make for a far more balanced game IMHO

still can't understand the insistance on playing 1.02...10K games

....Jochi

[Togakure]

Hi Jochi. I think 1.02 10K games are prevalent simply because they have become the norm over the last couple of years. They yield seemingly fair and entertaining games, and haven't caused any glaring problems because of the stat imbalances (at least in the minds of most who have been playing). Most seem to enjoy 10K/1.02 games as long as the 4 max/no ashi rules are in place. As soon as you allow more than 4 max of a unit type, or Ashi, you start seeing armies and tactics that just don't make for fun games.

People resist change. We tried to revive 1.03 at the Masterless by making it a requirement for the tourney we held last year. People participated, but there was some complaining about the stat, and after the tourney, use of the stat declined rapidly to almost zero. Everyone went back to what they were used to: 10K, 1.02 games, 4 max, no ashi.

I personally enjoyed the 1.03 games. I felt 7K was a little slim on koku, but I was able to come up with some decent armies using it. I and a few friends always use 1.05 for Mongol games, usually at 8-9K (as mongol units are so damn expensive).

Many of the remaining players can swap stats, so if you want to play 1.03, I'd say announce it in the foyer and go for it. You'll see a drop in player performance on the field because, as I'm sure you know, 1.03 plays quite differently than does 1.02. But it would even out the skill levels, as there aren't many who have played 1.03 with any regularity, and few have armies with which they have developed "expert-level" tactics and control.

As you said, it's all about having fun. If 1.03 is to taste: go for it :).

[Sasaki Kojiro]

1.03 is great if people don't bring the unbalanced armies...after it had been used for a while almost everyone was bringing the monks/nag cav armies. Powerful, flexible and very easy to use...but also very boring I think. Yari sam need a boost or you need to restrict the monks and nag cav. That was my conculusion after about 400 games on it.