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    If I can get the Greeks to fight me on open ground, I will absolutely CRUSH them. But if I have to fight a seige, then it's gonna be quite a hassle since phalanx units are best at seiges.
    This is where campaign map strategy is extremely important in regard to manuvering your armies. Use your spies to scope out settlements that are ill defended. Then do whatever it takes to take those particular settlements. Then one of two things will happen. You'll assault and capture the town easily, or the Greeks will try to throw off your siege with an external stack. The latter case is also in your favor, because the power of the phalanx is greatly diminished when on offense. Use your campaign smarts!
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    Good Ship Chuckle,



    Thanks for the tip! :) I'll definitely try it out. Fighiting the Greeks will be a challenge even with good tactics because they simply outman me!!!!!!!!!!





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    Hey guys,



    Just an update on my campaign. I've given up my 2 or my newly captured Scythian towns because they were dragging my economy down. So, I plan to build up my forces and invade again 5-10 turns later when I can actually conquer and defend. I hate to just give up those cities like that, but, you got to do what you got to do...

    Anyways, in the Balkan front, I've captured Corint, Sparta, and Thessalonica in one turn. Now, the Greeks have 3 full stacks... but I've got 3 as well... muhahahahahaaaaaaaaa. So, in therms of the Greeks, they will be decimated in no time.

    Now, I'm planning my invasion of the Nile. It's gonna be tough, but with Legionary Cohorts and Legionary Cavalry and 7-stared Generals at age 27!!!!!!!!!!! I think it's gonna be fine.





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    Thanks for the tip! :) I'll definitely try it out. Fighiting the Greeks will be a challenge even with good tactics because they simply outman me!!!!!!!!!!
    Fighting against greeks wont be problematic. They will be easier than Gauls, Germans or Brits.
    Barbarian warbands are fast, and they may cause you some losses, before they break from combat. Their numbers also protect them from missile fire (no matter how much missile troops you have, some will charge at you, sooner or later). Losses against barbarians were rather high. I usually got few hundred of troops down (2-3 units in numbers - minimum)

    War against greece is piece of cake, if you force them to fight on your terms.
    Try to attack them, rather to be attacked, cos they will be static, positioned on some hill, and you will be having time to exploit some traps, get higher ground. Also, use some cavalry to lure 2-3 units from their battleline (just ride close to their fronts for a while, and you will bring few of them right onto your pila troops. Phalanxes are so slow, that you can even try this trick with princeps or hastati.
    Use bowmens, they are really worth their money against greeks, and have more cavalry than greeks have in one stack. Greek cavalry usually sucks, and AI selecting phalanxes as core in any army, with few or even no cavalry at all.
    Battles against Greeks will be much longer in time, but you probbably get fewer losses(mine ranged from 0 to 300 max, while Greeks usually loosed all stack per battle). Dont let them attack you. After 3 battles as attacker(losses in all 3 battles was about 150men), i get attacked on open ground and in that battle i lost nearly 800.
    Build fort after each move. Then, they attack and besiege you. In your turn, break the siege by sallying out from fort. AI will simply allow you to leave fort, deploy your army, and you are considered to be attacker, so you will chose, where and how to strike. To clarify, i have also timer off, so i can play battle as long, as i need, to exterminate any army.
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    Hey guys,


    Yeah, the battles turned out to be a breeze. Now, the Greeks only have 1 full-stack left. Now, I have to build up my forces again and saile for the nile to fight against those darned Egyptians! Now that's gonna be tough.

    Any tips?


    Thanks.






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    The Egyptians will be tough... I'll leave the battle tips later if you need it, but remember to always exterminate every settlement and try to get the Memphis quickly because the culture penalty at Egypt will be a pain in the backside.

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    Hdey Quintus,



    Yeah. From my Brutii compaigns, I've found that Egytians are easy to beat militarily, but hard to occupy. So, I'm gonna bring my special group of garrisons along with my main army.

    I'm also considering attacking Pontus as well, but I think if I let the Egytians grow any longer, they'll be even more dangerous than Ponuts, although Pontus is closer.....

    What do you think? Pontus is my immediate threat but Egypt is much more dangerous.


    Thanks.





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    Where does Pontus occupy, Anatolia? Both factions are very powerful in their own right. Which faction you choose to attack is really down to you, at his stage of the game you should already be the undisputed master of Western Roman Empire, take the Eastern part as well.

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    Hey QUintus,



    Yeah, I'm the master of the West and North. See, Pontus oun the entire Anatolia and pushing into Parthian territory. It's just that the Pontus units are all that dangerous. But the Egyptians have the Pharoahs Bpwmen and Pharoahs Spearmen, which are sick. XD

    So, yeah. I'm torn.





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    The choice is entirely up to you.

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    Yeah, I'm the master of the West and North. See, Pontus oun the entire Anatolia and pushing into Parthian territory. It's just that the Pontus units are all that dangerous. But the Egyptians have the Pharoahs Bpwmen and Pharoahs Spearmen, which are sick. XD

    So, yeah. I'm torn.
    To be honest, you dont need to fear about them too much. But if they are advanced enough, you might get some serious losses. My next question will be about the reforms and civil war. You are after or before reforms? Are civil war is over, or is still far ahead of you? If you still have princeps and hastati, and Pont and Egipt have some advanced units, things will be definitely harder.
    If not, your units should do the job without too much problem.

    But few enemy units can definitely cause you problems (ie.losses on battlefield). Both, Pontus and Egipt have chariots, espetially, archer ones. Also, Pontus have acces to excellent heavy cavalry, unit comparable even with the late roman cav. Combine some heavy, mobile support and phalanx and you will get trouble.
    Troop selection is vital when dealing with both nations, but one clue will be shared for both opponents. Cavalry. You need good cavalry. If roman cavalry is not good, hire some heavies like sarmatian mercenary cavalry. Having northern regions, try to hire scythian cavalry. They are fast and they are missile cavalry. Cantabrian circle against phalanx is beautifull. Shame to miss the show. Pontus is also using mostly phalanx infantry, that can be beaten by pila troops quite easily (or combined with the scythian arrow shower), but enemy will be having cavalry, so thats your main threat with Pontus. Also, you can hire some mercenary hoplites, but they are slow, and only with luck, you will be able to commit them against enemy cavalry. If enemy is recruiting much more advanced troops, send some scouts to find place of the recrutation, and send assasin to sabotage that troublesome building. And repeat the proces each turn, so the enemy will be cut off from that dangerous unit. Or preferably lay sieg to that city ASAP. Also, numbers will beat everyone, so if you fear that your troops cant handle specific opponent, bring superior numbers. You take losses, but you can replenish troops from half of the map. They cannot. So do not hesitate to bring few stacks more. Bribe thouse enemy stacks without enemy family members, and if they are in thouse stacks, assasinate them, and then, bribe them.
    Also, you must check, what units AI is combining. Mostly, AI using combo of 2-3 basic units, and only few advanced units. If they combining stacks full of advanced, exotic units, concentrate your effort to kill/bribe/anihilate that stack. This also gives you the clue about troop selection when dealing with particulary opponent.

    Being on your place, Pontus should be next target. If you thinking seriously about invading egipt, Pontus is on your left flank, and is expanding so it is more than a threat. Egipt will be peacefull and far away from you (they are most of the time, they never invaded me when i played as Julii), and you can even ally with them against Pontus, and after solving Pontus problem, you can invade Egipt.
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    I found egypt the toughest foe i fought as the brutii. heavy infantry vs chariots... deadly... id use wardogs to scare the chariots and javlins to kill them. if you still have triarii left bring em too. they'll help against the chariots.
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    Hey guys,



    Well, the Civil War is over and the Reforms have occurred for quite a while now. My empire is pretty huge now. THere are no revolts and I'm actually doing really well in terms of economics.

    Bad news though, the Egyptians are mobilizing their armies in my direction. YIKES. CUrrently, I'm engaged with Pontus, so yeah....

    Is there a way for me to get a picture onto a post? Cuz it'll be cool if I could show you guys my empire.



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    To take a picture of your screen, press the "print screen" button located on the top right of your keyboard. Then go to your paint application and do edit paste. Then save the picture (preferable as a JPEG, so it makes the smaller and easier to upload). Then go to "imageshack.us", browse for your picture, upload, and then copy the direct link after it is done uploading into your post. Keeping trying trial and error if something doesn't work in my explaination. It's really not too hard.
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    I am a cheater, I love cheat codes. So, I play as the Julii, and I can make the reforms happen by the 2nd, to third turn, normalor hard. Statrt with money. Add_money: 40000 untill you get to say about(500000) dennari. then Just get your population to 24000 in all your cities by the add_population: (city) 4000, and finnaly, build every thing in the que's with the process_cq:(City). Do this and by the second turn the "Marius reforms" should kick in gear well before any of your fellow roman "allis"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintus.JC View Post
    The Egyptians will be tough... I'll leave the battle tips later if you need it, but remember to always exterminate every settlement and try to get the Memphis quickly because the culture penalty at Egypt will be a pain in the backside.
    Doesn't destroying the foreign shrine/temple and waiting 1 turn remove the culture penalty from that settlement?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkvicer98 View Post
    Doesn't destroying the foreign shrine/temple and waiting 1 turn remove the culture penalty from that settlement?
    The key to pacifying Egypt is the pyramids (memphis). Gives you a huge cultural "leg up" on the "Why can't we all just get along" scale.

    You will incur some cultural penalty whenever there are more "native" buildings on the city buildings screen than there are buildings of your culture. The temple carries no "special" penalty in the basic game (and sometimes generates bonuses you'll want to keep)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkvicer98 View Post
    Doesn't destroying the foreign shrine/temple and waiting 1 turn remove the culture penalty from that settlement?
    What Seamus said; the pyrmaid wonder reduces the culture penalty against the Egyptians dramatically for any foreign faction occupying Egyptian land, otherwise its especially hard for the Romans to bring them under control quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Watcher View Post
    I am a cheater, I love cheat codes. So, I play as the Julii, and I can make the reforms happen by the 2nd, to third turn, normalor hard. Statrt with money. Add_money: 40000 untill you get to say about(500000) dennari. then Just get your population to 24000 in all your cities by the add_population: (city) 4000, and finnaly, build every thing in the que's with the process_cq:(City). Do this and by the second turn the "Marius reforms" should kick in gear well before any of your fellow roman "allis"
    But don't the Marius Reforms happen simultaneously no matter which faction triggers the reforms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Watcher View Post
    I am a cheater, I love cheat codes. So, I play as the Julii, and I can make the reforms happen by the 2nd, to third turn, normalor hard. Statrt with money. Add_money: 40000 untill you get to say about(500000) dennari. then Just get your population to 24000 in all your cities by the add_population: (city) 4000, and finnaly, build every thing in the que's with the process_cq:(City). Do this and by the second turn the "Marius reforms" should kick in gear well before any of your fellow roman "allis"
    That defeats the whole purpose of the game tho...

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    I think the appropriate quote here would be:

    "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end."
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    ...now back to Julii....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quirinus View Post
    But don't the Marius Reforms happen simultaneously no matter which faction triggers the reforms?
    IIRC the reforms can only be triggered by the Romans.
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    Hey guys,



    CRAP! Egypt is mobilizing it's armies towards me. I think they're gonna attack soon, but my African cities aren't the most fortified.
    Oh well, more Heroic Victories for me....... lol.

    And the last time I checked, they had Pahroah's Bowmen and Pharoahs Guards. Yikes. It's gonna be tough.

    Pontus is really easy. I find that hoplites in a city assault is almost invincible. My group of 2 Mercernary Hoplites pushed by 4 waves of Pontic HEAVY Cavalry. lol






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    Looks like you've had a nice campaign so far, Chinese Tiger, I've looked at your previous posts. I've never had much success in RTW, i prefur M2TW, but the battles in RTW are pretty epic. I hope your campaign goes well dude.
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    Insane834,



    Thanks man. I'm sorry you don't like RTW, I think it's a blast. Yeah, my campaign has been very epic and I just have to eliminate 2 more factions, although those factions are gonna be tough to fight.





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    Hey guys,



    This is a picture of my empire.
    Note: Scythians have 2 towns left with only 1 full stack. Parthia only has a one-unit garrisoned city left.

    Enjoy!

    https://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?...3530052qq6.png





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    P.S. It may not work, this is my first time uploading a picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese Tiger View Post
    Hey guys,



    This is a picture of my empire.
    Note: Scythians have 2 towns left with only 1 full stack. Parthia only has a one-unit garrisoned city left.

    Enjoy!

    https://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?...3530052qq6.png





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    P.S. It may not work, this is my first time uploading a picture.
    Nice empire, only 226 BC still. I personally prefer to takes longer to build up my empire. Seems like you had a nice time.

    If you want to continue playing try to conquer the Holy land and Egypt, tons of fun guranteed.

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    Hey guys,



    Qunitus; Thanks for your comments. I know that it seems fairly fast, but I do take time to make "happy" structures for my people. I'm not boasting when I say that every city CAN be "green". It's just that I need the money for bribing.

    Anyways, an update. I have mobilized 5 full-stacks into Egypt and ready for WAR!!!!!!!! Muhahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. The time of the Egyptians is over. The time of the Julii has come................

    I'm looking forward to this fight coming up. Pontus might be tougher than I thought. They suddenly showed up with 2 more full-stacks, but hey, my Legionary Cohorts can handle it.............. I hope.





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    Hey guys,

    This is for those of you who are thinking of goiong south and taking Carthage as the Julii. If you go after cailis then go strait to Carthage, i have found that it is not that heavily guarded and therefore easy to take if u have the troops


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    lol
    well, i usually go along with the plan as Julii so I stick to Gaul
    i find that it's very easy to reinforce and conquer

    if i were to attack carthage/greece, then reinforcing and management would get RLY hectic
    plus more enemies to fight
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