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    How do you people make the transition from pre to post Marian reforms? For me it was pretty terrible when all of a sudden my armies became obsolete at a stroke. Do you people raise new armies, while disbanding the old ones, or scatter the old ones as garrisons and use new ones to attack, or just continue using the old ones until they die out before replacing, or what?


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    I personally let my old armies die out fighting. No point to disbanding as that is as if I'm giving the enemy free kills. Frequently, I'm in the middle of military expeditions. Better to keep up the pressure with the old troops and maintain the tempo rather than wait for new troops to be brought up if they don't have to be.

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    do you guys have any tips about the falxmen?
    i mean, some good ways to kill them
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    Pin them and charge into their rearwith cav? Works with most barb infantry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craterus
    Pin them and charge into their rearwith cav? Works with most barb infantry.
    i'm trying that
    but many times they just turn and hit the cav, killing many of them
    i'll try to put stronger inf to pin them.. they MUST pay attetion on my inf hehe
    at the moment i'm using velite gladiators to pin them, but these glad are too
    disorganized (or unorganized? dont know =p) and cant keep a good pin
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    Falxmen are best killed from range. Use ample archers. Also, have velites behind your lines and set them to hold ground and fire at will. Do the same for your hastati.

    The mix of arrows and then concentrated pila will typically destroy 3 units of falxmen right away. Feign with cav to keep em dancing in front of your lines to eat pila and arrows.

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    I agree, but you'd definately need at least 3 units of archers. Im talkin going against 6-8 units of Falxmen, charging under cover of skirmishers and archers. i agree w/katank as well about keeping the velites behind the lines. BUT DO NOT USE HASTATI, they run like dogs. Principes or higher.....post marius Im sure the Earlys can handle it but dont use Hastati. Anything w/out armor or shields is gonna be SUPER vulnerable to missle attacks. If the enemy stack in question has no cav then either simply let their infantry absorb that missle fire and chase down their missle troops w/your cav. by that time the Falxmen should be close to your line. engage them w/your troops and your cav should be behind em in perfect positon to charge into the rear. can anyone say instant rout?

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    The same thing happened to me that happened to Oshidashi. I had taken Sparta, Corinth and Athens in Greece as well as Pergamum, Sardis and Halicanarsus. I get outlawed the next turn, so do the Julies and the Skippers. The Senate will take my alliance but will then immediately outlaw me again the same turn. I have no idea what happened.
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    I think it would be funny if the 3 slaves of the senate (Julii, Brutii and Scipii) jsut eventually got so annoyed with their bossiness and destroyed them. Then there would be a battle for Rome. I tihnk Brutii or Scipii would win it.

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    Hey? why not the julii? Go Redskirts! *is a Julii fan*


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    They don't expand so much, Scipii plow into Africa and get Carthage..
    Brutii plow into Greece and Macedon and get good amount of meney from there..
    Julii's advantage is that they have themost cities in the Roman peninsular and therefore troops almost immediately.. Scipii have only Capua but they have Sicily before long but that would still take time to move the troops across..

    Brutii would have to march troops north from southern italy..

    blah blah blah etc.

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    Ho hum... that may not be true, I found Julii in all sorts of weird places, like right now in the Scythian campaign Corinth and Sparta are red... O_o And in my Brutii campaign Western Dacia was red O_o and that's in addition to the usual suspects of Osca, Narbo Martius and Caralis.


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    Scipii actually frequently fail at uniting Sicily and can be stuck with just Messena and Capua, then getting their army decimated by the eruption at Etna, making them quite weak.

    The Brutii eventually crunches through all of Greece though it takes them a long time and are usually one of the strongest Roman factions.

    With Julii, it can also be hit and miss but they are guaranteed northern Italy and Caralis most of the time.

    In one of my Brutii games, they have those territories and then Condate Redonum, the Britanny area, must have bribed it. They do go weird places.

    As for show down, my bet for the AI is on Brutii if they mobilize well. Else, it's Julii.

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    I have choosen Byzatium as my capitol. There, i have buildit up to a huge city with urban baracks! Strange is that i can recuit urban cohort, altrougth
    they havent been any marian reforms yet!
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    You can recruit Praetorian Cohort. Not Urbans.

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    Can you build Praetorian Cohorts before the Marius Reforms than?
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    You can get praetorian cohorts before marian reforms. But in vanilla that is not supposed to happen. (Wuss. :D) Edit it out.


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    Ok, here we go....

    I have finally eliminated the dreaded Egyptians! I had a little help (very little) from my Pontic protectorate (now ex, but more on that later), but essentially followed the advice of Pezhetairoi to take Memphis first. They were a snap once the Pyramids were in my control. I also owe some credit to Seamus Fermanagh for the idea of simulcasting them. The combination of these approaches was the culmination of divide and conquer. Hats off to these clever chaps!

    I thought, in my imperial glee, that I would now be able to begin my blitzkrieg attack on Rome for the win. Thinking I now had more than the required 50 provinces. With the British Isles completly occupied, all of Germania, Greece, Thrace, Dacia, Illyria, Egypt, and half of Gaul under my banner; Syracuse Tarentum, Croton, and Pergamum building large armies for my bid for Italy seemed like a recipe for sucess. Imagine my suprise when Pontus began using many spies and assasins in an attempt to cause rebellion in Petra and Jeruselam. When I assasinated a few of thier agents it must have cancelled the protectorship! Of course this means I am now ten provinces to the poorer, posessing only fortyfive.

    To add insult to injury, the Senate ordered me to capture Bostra after it rebelled through Pontus' mismanagement. In order to accomplish the mission, I had to remake an alliance with the cutthroats, as they were also trying to lay siege to the city. When I had the right amount of siege equipment built, Pontus attacked with my forces as reinforcements. Like a fool, I went through most of the work in getting to the city square (well...they did take on the lion's share of enemy forces) only to see the AI award them the city! On the very next turn, the Senate ordered me out of Nabatea so as not to alarm our so called ally of Rome!

    So what is the consensus? Should I attack Pontus, or enlist thier aid against the other Roman factions? Personally, I am for crushing the Cappadocian, camel riding, Zoarastrianistic dogs myself.
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