Germania

[Quintus.JC]

The Berserkers are too powerful to be true. They kill generals for fun. bring a few Berserkers and you're unstoppable. I first noticed their invincibility when fighting the Britons. they're down to their last city. against their factions leader and heir plus 1 warband. 2 units of Berserkers slaughtered them all with only 1 casulty sustained. amazing.

[Praetor Rick]

The Berserkers are too powerful to be true. They kill generals for fun. bring a few Berserkers and you're unstoppable. I first noticed their invincibility when fighting the Britons. they're down to their last city. against their factions leader and heir plus 1 warband. 2 units of Berserkers slaughtered them all with only 1 casulty sustained. amazing.

Not so amazing as all that - a single unit of Spear Warband could do much the same, although it would probably suffer worse casualties. Mostly because chariots apparently burst into flames and explode the minute a phalanx-capable unit deploys on the battlefield.

Seriously, it's almost comical watching a dreaded unit of chariots just disintegrate as it barely brushed the spearheads. Especially if you read your spearman's attitude after and it says "frightened by chariots." If I hadn't faced chariots as Romans, I'd be thoroughly mystified as to why they're supposed to be good.

[RLucid]

Seriously, it's almost comical watching a dreaded unit of chariots just disintegrate as it barely brushed the spearheads. Especially if you read your spearman's attitude after and it says "frightened by chariots." If I hadn't faced chariots as Romans, I'd be thoroughly mystified as to why they're supposed to be good.

And if the Romans deployed Velites, and spearmen correctly you'ld still wonder. I had 2 Town Watch hidden in a wood (reinforcements) and they saw off chariot unit by themselves.

All units have some weakness, it's the combination in an army that really becomes formidable.

I doubt German Spear warbands would enjoy heavy archer fire from Forester Warbands, or chariots standing off, with mobile skirmishers, some infantry and cavalry to finish them off.

[Praetor Rick]

And if the Romans deployed Velites, and spearmen correctly you'ld still wonder. I had 2 Town Watch hidden in a wood (reinforcements) and they saw off chariot unit by themselves.

All units have some weakness, it's the combination in an army that really becomes formidable.

I doubt German Spear warbands would enjoy heavy archer fire from Forester Warbands, or chariots standing off, with mobile skirmishers, some infantry and cavalry to finish them off.

No, Germans don't like missile heavy armies at all. Chosen Archer Warbands are adequate to deal with them, but come fairly late in Germania's (admittedly front loaded) tech tree. There aren't many good solutions for a German army facing horse archers, especially not well played horse archers.

Generally, by the time I can recruit tier 3 stuff as a barbarian culture, assuming I haven't blitzed Italy or Greece, it's almost more economical to defeat my enemies by drowning them in the blood of my slaughtered tier 1 units. Eventually attrition wins the game, and I rarely reach tier 3 without also having a massive empire well able to weather a war of attrition.

As for town watch, I honestly never noticed them dealing well with chariots - but the only chariots I ever faced with them were Pontic, and the town watch were admittedly outmatched in numbers by the opposing army. Not a lot you can do with Town Watch who are already routing by the time the opposing cavalry is supposed to charge into them.

[RLucid]

In the Vanilla Play Balance Mod, Phalanx option is removed from German spearmen. I'm actually disappointed, as I love facing Phalanx armies, if they spear warbands become normal light infrantry their higher speed will make it hard to eliminate them without taking casualties.

[Praetor Rick]

In the Vanilla Play Balance Mod, Phalanx option is removed from German spearmen. I'm actually disappointed, as I love facing Phalanx armies, if they spear warbands become normal light infrantry their higher speed will make it hard to eliminate them without taking casualties.

Well, German Spear Warbands out of phalanx mode seem to move about as fast as any other normal 120 man unit. Now, against the AI, yeah, phalanx mode makes them easier to game around and slaughter without taking many (or sometimes any) casualties. The AI is mind-numbingly stupid on so many levels it makes my teeth hurt sometimes.