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    Having played the Germans on very hard very hard in rtr, i had to use pretty "tricky" tactics.
    In General, although the German foot troops arent bad, on vh they arent going to beat anyone. (wtf, I lost 36 out of a medium axe unit while attacking some barb peasants...).
    The Spear warbands can hold up an enemy, but will not beat them. (very hard bonus for the AI).
    The fact that there are no puupies anymore kinda hurts your morale.
    So, the only thing that left is the cavalry.
    This adds the nifty fact that you dont bleed your population dry be rerecruting.

    As blitzing rome without the phalanx was out of the question (lol, I would propably not get past the Julii), I had to contend with the Gauls. Well, i am in war with them anyway.
    After some happy Cav abuse (i may play without the pause button next time, would make it more challenging) i quickly managed to get Alesia.
    I also managed to rapidly expand into the east, just to give me more breathing space if the Scythies come knocking (they can have dmois dulcis dmous if they have too, but vicus gothi is mine).
    I cnathed Behmia and Austira with a contignecy force (use your warcrys, and use them right. Managing to sperate enmy troops also helps), and desperatly hoped that the Dacians would start to come at me (if they would, I would have retreated, these lands are junk, so I wont sacrifze anything to hold em).
    Some enslaving acutally got me to level 2 population in the major cities.
    This gave me enough Cav to roll the Gauls straight back to Spain.
    As the Roman/Italo Gauls attacked me with large forces at Massilia (bless these mountain passes, lots of oportunites to make the Romies really tired), i managed to hold in some desperate defense.
    However, my accompaniyng infantry units actually had enough exp to beat/hold up considerably outexped Hastati.
    Meanwhile, my central cities got to level 3, and it was time to scratch these Freyia temples, go Wodan! (the healing that coems from the priests is quite cool too). I happily employed hit and run tactics to stall Dacian prgoress (well, hit a bit, lure the Dacians out of their towns, introduce them to my eastern all Cav force).
    The Brits (for some reasons, my light Cav cannot get their chariots...) where more of a problem, but deceid to strom Friseurum.
    This lead to a wholesale hugging of their forces, incuding two of their generals (there arent many things that rtr German spears do accomplish on vh, but they can kill crappy british chariots if they charge them).

    I managed to stablize my eastern front by getting the Scythies up against the Dacians (turned on me later though, however i had all of the river crossing protected by forts).
    My first serios non all Cav army was completed, and went to greet the Brits.
    Level 3 germanic Lancers are nifty, to nifty for the Blues to cope with.
    I experineced that shooting the British cahriots is better than chasing them around.
    I caprutred Brittain quickly (well, now I actually could assault a settlement instead of hacing to siege it to death), rerecreutied my army at London (thanks for the weaponsmith, now i am even stronger).
    And, coupled with an All Cav army from Gaul, went to have a little chat with the Italo-Gauls.
    Another mixed army took care of the Dacians, however, trouble with the Scythies disabled me from using my advandatge.
    The Gaul resitance in Italy was light, but the romas (all allied with Gaul, sure)
    countrattack in force.
    Patavium had the experience of a full Bruti stack every 4 turns.
    Sometimes it was so crass that I stared to give names to individual soldiers.
    I manged to get silver chevron Bastarnae mercenaries out of them, the unit was 4 men strong (the famous heroes known as Hack, slash, Crash and Burn) and ended up as a decesive element in several desperate(1 to 5 outnumbered) siege battles.
    The General leading the Patavium army got every single one of the last stand/defender traits.
    Meanwhile, my high tech mainstack mucnhed through the Juli cites, and began sieging rome.
    The Scippiee counterstrcuk, the SPQR sallied out and remaingin Juli also attacked me.
    In true German facion, I instantly marched agaisnt the Scippiee army, while the SPQR/Juli were forming up behind my back.
    The Scipii fled just in time (well, their General fought to the last man, alwthough my Gothics charged him in the back more than 3 times).
    Just before the SPQR/Juli Cav could hit my back, i reformed. Although I could not construct a Phalanx, my chosen Axes and mellee fighting Lancers manged to dispatch their horses.
    The now Cav less Juli/SPQR force was nasty, but, with a stupidly large amount of flank charges, some serios chosen archer mellee action (got no arrows left anyway) and continous cursing about that !"§$§" horde formation that prevented my chosen Axes from doing overlapping charged with my Axes, i somehow did it.
    On a happy sidenote, Rome was mine:P.
    As I finally managed to get the Juli cites and rome to somehting akin to production, my hold on Italy got tighter, and I succesfully beat the Romans out of Italy, they did put up some fights, however, a fully fledeged, upgraded and ably lead army of Germans is not going to be beaten, not even by post Marian scipii (suckers got Karthago to size 5-.-).
    After this, my succesfully doom stack got to Sicily, which did not pose a significant problem.
    Another Island hop later I was standing near Karthago.
    This town needed some serios razing action before I establishe some kind of control over it.
    Meanwhile, my Eastern front asnt idle.
    After getting some small but nearly unbeatable (for Scythies at least) garrisons consisting of 2 Lancer + 3 archers and some light cav) river garrisons, the rest of my army swept trhough Dacia and is now attacking thrace.
    their amries looked qutie imposing, but somehow got the idea to attack Germanic lancers on top of a mountain during a snow storm, which quiklcy lead to their total distrcution.
    From now on, I quited.
    I had Italy, Carthage, all of central Qurope and Britain.
    I had 14 provinces capabe of prudcing level 3 German troops.
    I had a signifcant cash flow.

    The rest would be a basic amount of mopping up the rest.
    Last edited by Kekvit Irae; 08-25-2006 at 01:51.

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    I decided to give both myself and my pc a break from BI and started my first major Germania campaign. having previously only attempted a short campaign, and given recent expansions, I was interested to explore Barbarianism at its core once more.

    First target, as always. was to weaken the Gauls. I hate the Gauls! Dirty, backstabbing, traitorous beings, who never hold alliances or trade agreements or even their protectorates! I went for Alesia. That meant Spear Warband, Barbarian Mercs, Cav, Skirmishers, my heir and the leader. 900 strong. I took the capital on turn 5.

    Next up Sambrobriva. The brits decided to attack my capital at trier with a full stack full of their best units - so much for trade rights. They had however only left two units up in Sambrobriva. They had no chance. Wasn't too long before they came back for trade...

    But you've probably heard all this before. The early game is straighforward for germania. Its a walk in the park against the Gauls. The question really is how soon do you want to face the Romans? Im prepared to wait for Noble Cav.

    Ive got Alliances with Macedon, Greek Cities, Scythia, and Spain. Agreements with everyone else but the Gauls of course. The strategic map is clear, trade is flowing, money is not an issue.

    But first, Im going to finish off the Gauls. All of them.

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    Garvy:

    Are you playing vanilla RTW, or is this RTW after 1.3/BI? If the latter, have you observed any differences?

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    Playing v1.3. I'll post my observations later tonight.

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    Seamus..

    Not much noticeable change in v1.3 that wasn't noticeable in v1.2. Even harder to bribe, perhaps?

    I think they just fixed the save/load bug.

    Others may have noticed more with different factions.

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    Hi,
    while playing the German campaign, I made a tech tree with all buildings and their respective units.

    http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/...compressed.JPG

    The pic is somewhat 'blurred' as I had to compress it to fit my space available.

    I'd like to upload the .jpg to share with the community if there is an interest.

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    Heyyy that's really nice. By all means upload it. I never had the time to do it...


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