RTW patch suggestions

**Sp00n** · 10-08-2004, 11:58

Originally Posted by d6veteran

13: You can't move whole army together. New control system can be real pain in the neck often.

>>I like the new control system, and my assumption is that people haven't learned the controls yet. They are different. You can move you whole army together. Why haven't I heard people applauding that you can now wheel a unit formation? Weren't we asking for this since STW? Get to know the controls, then make a detailed post on what is wrong. Otherwise my assumption (and I assume CAs as well) is that you just aren't reading the manual.

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You are missing the point we were making with the new controls system, you can change unit direction using the < > keys and you can use the mouse wheel but and its a big but if you have been playing Total War games since the start, you cant group any units and then move the army in formation, it just doesnt work, this was a standard control that 90 percent of the online community used.
I checked the controls with an Activion guy online yesterday and he stated that the move grouped units controls just arnt in Rome and yes I have read the manual and yes like many I agree the new controls are cack and Ive now played over 40 online games and my opinion wont change they suck.

Grouped units dont move properly either they have made it control more like a standard RTS game like Ground Control or Warcraft not like Total War which is a real shame when its a military strategy game, the new controls are much slower to control you army and considering the speed of some units in particular infantry missiles ( which are nearly uncatchable with light cav obviously rocket boots were available in 270 bc) it makes it a lot harder to coordinate the type of strategy that we all used in the past.

MizuSp00n

They have added many nice features to Rome but in doing some lots of the basics have gone, I agree with Amp about the lack of chain rout being a good thing, but there are way too many bad and missing items that need to be addressed.

**Puzz3D** · 10-08-2004, 20:23

During a battle, inform the players when someone has gone out of sync. There is no point in playing out a battle that has lost sync.

**FearZeus** · 10-08-2004, 22:35

regarding this control issue I would also like to add that in RTW when we did group our units they showed on the bars in the order they where on the map, now in RTW they group in blocks? this bugs me, it's more organised putting the groups in the same order the army resides on the map. Hope this is sorted out too.

**Krusader** · 10-15-2004, 10:28

Did a search on this page for the word "pathfinding" and didn't turn up anything.

Whenever I'm in sieges, it seems the pathfinding aint that good at times. Sometimes, my units will go outside the city gate and in again when I order them to move a block down the road for instance. Or take a whole different route than the one I believed they would take.

**d6veteran** · 10-16-2004, 01:59

Sp00n, I know about the alt control in the previous games. Isn't this control feature now assigned to ctrl?

And yes I agree the gouping BUGs need to fixed just like the other bugs.

**CBR** · 10-16-2004, 02:29

ctrl to do what?

CBR

**d6veteran** · 10-16-2004, 03:17

When I use Ctrl + right click, the units selected move, keeping formation just like using Alt in MTW. I don't use that function much so I could be wrong, but I think it is the same behavior. It is buggy with grouped units though like some of the other controls, but if the units aren't grouped it works well.