Devastating Faction Heir bug.

[King Azzole]

Well I think I found a real killer bug. I noticed it first with the egyptians and now with the Julii. Apparantly if you "adopt" a rebel general ( or another factions general in the case of the egyptians ) your family no longer gives birth. My guys were happily pumping away until I got a rebel general to join my faction. Then mysteriously all my females became barren ( or the males sterile? ). Its only been a few years so far with the julii but my egyptian campaign was ruined because all my "youngest" generals were 50 years old +. Now apparantly my Julii are headed the same way. It really REALLY SUCKS to play 10+ hours with a faction to have them stopped by a bug. I AM MAD.

EDITED FOR KIDS READING IT WITHOUT PARENTS GIVING A RATS ASS

[Goofball]

It also REALLY %$&?$&% SUCKS hearing that kind of language in the PG13 environment we like to maintain here. Please have a little more respect in the future.

[Dorkus]

he's mad. give him a break

not as if you don't hear that on the street every day.

Anyways, I haven't noticed this, but I don't recall adopting anyone in my campaign. Can't imagine this is a general bug, however. Would basically end the game once you adopted.

[Steppe Merc]

I think it's only for Rebel Generals right?
And how did you get them to join you? They only disband when bribed for me....

[Doug-Thompson]

You have to bribe a family member. Captains just take their money and go home -- but are much cheaper.

[Leet Eriksson]

better edit the f word quick.

As for the adoptions, you do get to adopt a general in the julii campaign pretty early (might be even on the first turn) if i remember correctly, but that didn't stop my generals from producing more offspring.

Or is this bug only for rebel generals?

[Goofball]

he's mad. give him a break

not as if you don't hear that on the street every day.

Sorry, but being upset over the results of a computer game doesn't give anybody the right to violate the Org rules. And this isn't the street. It's a forum that is viewed by a wide variety of people, including kids.

[Steppe Merc]

Err... Can we discuss ORG policy somewhere else? Personal feelings aside, it's the ORG's rule to use no F-boms, so if you want to change it, do it elsewear. I really want to find if this is a real problem, or an isalated incident. Don't make the thread be closed!

[King Azzole]

Sorry, but being upset over the results of a computer game doesn't give anybody the right to violate the Org rules. And this isn't the street. It's a forum that is viewed by a wide variety of people, including kids.

If they didnt want the word here it would be auto-edited like most forums Besides Pg-13 ALLOWS CURSING. Hell even PG allows some forms of cursing. Heres a thought. Instead of trolling threads to start problems with people, find a better hobby like xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. And if they DONT allow cursing and yet it is allowed to be put in text thats just plain old SILLY. But dont worry folks robocop here is on the job.

Back on topic, which unfortunately was taken off topic from post #2, I am gonna try and just end turn after turn after turn now to see if it continues.

[DemonArchangel]

Props to King Azzhole!
meanwhile, hopefully, this is fixed in a patch

[Goofball]

If they didnt want the word here it would be auto-edited like most forums Besides Pg-13 ALLOWS CURSING. Hell even PG allows some forms of cursing. Heres a thought. Instead of trolling threads to start problems with people, find a better hobby like masturbation. And if they DONT allow cursing and yet it is allowed to be put in text thats just plain old SILLY. But dont worry folks robocop here is on the job.

Back on topic, which unfortunately was taken off topic from post #2, I am gonna try and just end turn after turn after turn now to see if it continues.

Azzole, I am not trolling threads to start problems. I read this thread initially because the topic interested me and I was glad to have the heads up on the potentially very annoying bug that you were kind enough to share with everybody else.

When I saw the kind of language you used I pointed it out to you because it seemed obvious to me that you didn't know what the rules of the Org are. Now it is doubly obvious, because instead of taking the simple action of editing your post of its profanity, which would have still preserved its value to the rest of us, you decided to flame me. Also against Org rules, by the way.

I will say though, that out of all of my fellow Org members, you have the most appropriate name. Beside me, that is...

[Turbo]

It also REALLY %$&?$&% SUCKS hearing that kind of language in the PG13 environment we like to maintain here. Please have a little more respect in the future.

Why don't you devote your comments to the issue he is raising, not just to the manner in which it is raised and your personal sensitivities.

I haven't been able to duplicate this adoption bug, but it is worth noting in the RTW bugs sticky.

[zentuit]

Just to clarify what Silencer said. You can adopt your army captains if they perform well on the battlefield. So have a couple stacks hunt down rebels or small enemy forces. After a few battles you usually get a notification that this captain is a hero and worthy of your family yada yada, do you wish to adopt him?

I have 2 so far, one has married and there have been births (not his wife) since the first was adopted.

I have not adopted a faction general, so I can't confirm that what King Azzole is seeing is bad luck or a bug.

[King Azzole]

OK guys the bug happened to me while playing the egyptians and julii and i BRIBED another family member into my family. Just to confirm that. It has nothing to do with the regular adoptions which are fine so far for me. I started another julii campaign and got to 220 BC so far and although slow, my heirs are being produced, and I have not bribed any other generals yet. So its not my game copy or installation. My egyptian campaign is roxxored cause all my youngest generals are 50+ years old. I have the save game if anyone wants to see it. Also wierd, my faction heir became the bribed general when my main leader died.... Why the hell would they make him the faction heir if he is a non egyptian?

[Thoros of Myr]

Also wierd, my faction heir became the bribed general when my main leader died.... Why the hell would they make him the faction heir if he is a non egyptian?

Unless the bug prevented you from doing so you can change your hier to whomever you want from the family tree menu. The game probly doesent make a distinction of the nationality of your generals, it probly just assumes they are fair game if they are in the family.

[Longasc]

Do not lament over the language, the info is critical.

I would like my young women to marry again whose husband died by age or an accident - I have such a case. :)

BUT: My Julii still give birth to children, and I had someone marry into my family from another faction.

So I did not experience this bug.

[Silencer]

adoptation is not random, here is how to do it:

do a battle together with an AI reinforment army. make sure the army doesn't have a general and fit's into your slots.

when the battle starts, you'll see a captain under your troops (silver star)
let him do a good battle, to gain exp, and after the battle you'll be promted to adopt him (IIRC, he needs to be 2 stars at least)

[Catiline]

Watch the language please lads, this is kids TV

[Malrubius]

adoptation is not random, here is how to do it:

do a battle together with an AI reinforment army. make sure the army doesn't have a general and fit's into your slots.

when the battle starts, you'll see a captain under your troops (silver star)
let him do a good battle, to gain exp, and after the battle you'll be promted to adopt him (IIRC, he needs to be 2 stars at least)

Had this happen today. Had some hastati and velites attack some Macedonian cav, assisted by equites as reinforcements. The battle began, I started marching towards the Macedonians, and they ran off before I even got close enough to see them. Result was a narrow victory with no loss of life on either side (the Macedonians ran back to Larissa, so they apparently had plenty of movement points left), and the captain was eligible for adoption as a 3-star, 1 scroll general with good commander, drillmaster and bureaucrat traits.

[Underhand]

MikeC in the entrance hall says:

I have adopted both opposition faction family members as well as rebel family faction members and my family is still continuing to have kids. Since adopting a rebel family member, I have had 4 births over the course of 12 game turns.

[King Azzole]

Ok, seems isolated to my campaign. I am still terrified to invest enough time in a campaign to bribe another factions general, so im not even gonna try and simulate this again. But apparantly its not a bug so disregard, must have been 2 freak coincidental back to back events.

[ChaosLord]

Well, I do think there some bug involved. I bribed a Spanish general and he joined my faction, but on the family tree it showed him as being the son of my faction heir. (A 30 some odd year old who had a 40 year old son :P) And oddly that heir hasn't produced any children while having the Fruitful virtue. It could just be bad luck i'll admit. My other family members are still producing kids.