Diplomacy - An Initial Guide

**Droplede** · 03-12-2005, 16:14

Originally Posted by Malrubius

I'm not sure if it counts to attack one's enemies on the same turn after offering to do this diplomatically, but I've done it several times. The way to check would be to have the diplomat make the deal

, attack the mutual enemy, and then check back with that diplomat. On the diplomacy screen, you'll see "Assistance provided against rebels" (or whoever) until you have fulfilled your obligations. Then that message won't appear on the diplomacy screen.
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Thanks, Mal. I hadn't realized that tag was conditional. That will help test it for sure.

**Viriato** · 04-20-2005, 22:12

hi, excellent guide. I've two questions

1.- I'm playing with the julii. I'm traying to make alliances with the numidians, the thracians and the scythians... (i've already have trade rights and anyone of them are in war with the others roman factions)
The numidians reject my offers (i will continue later), but with the other two I don't have the choice to offer an alliance, because in the diplomatic window I don't have this option (in all cases I'm negotiating with citys and not with foreign diplomats). What's the matter?

2.- The guide tells that you can bribe anyone, but I'm trying to bribe a roman army, guided by a captain, and I don't have the choice to do that in the diplomatic window. I've installed Patch 1.2 (It's that a change of the patch?)

Thanks a lot.

**Kagemusha** · 05-28-2005, 00:18

Great guide

I personally have two separate diplomacys.First one is for factions near me,with them i use the old "enemy of my enemy must be my friend"diplomacy.
The other thing i do is large scale blackmail.I have lone ships with diplomats aboard.Sailing all around the seas.When i see some faction targeted by multiple enemies,i simply blockade one or more of their ports and demand money for ceacefire.
It has paid of wery well.Its not very honourable,but im playing as roman julii faction and i think it feels to me very "Roman"thing to do.

**Tamur** · 06-30-2005, 18:01

Hi all,

After a long, long time away due to RL, I've finally given up on real life and decided that Total War is much better. I'm starting the LONG overdue process of updating the diplomacy guide. It looks like I have a lot to catch up on!

Thanks to everyone who have contributed to this thread and who have sent emails. I'm setting a soft deadline of three weeks for the update to be completed.

Cheers,
Tamur

**Taurus** · 07-07-2005, 14:27

Very nice guide indeed

A very good insight into the world of diplomacy

**Krauser** · 07-07-2005, 18:39

Yeah, good info here. I'm going to try more diplomacy once I finish my current campaign.

**Tamur** · 07-14-2005, 19:29

Just put up the initial desperately needed updates to the diplomacy guide.

If you've got the guide already, don't bother looking at the new version quite yet. Only the most basic of rewrites has happened -- bribes and protectorates mostly.

There are some major changes in the works as I catch up on the last six months of board posts. Eventually I'll see them all, but if someone knows of particularly helpful or useful posts on diplomacy written since 1.2 came out, it would be a big help if you could post them up here.

Thanks!

**Zaleukos** · 05-30-2008, 15:39

Originally Posted by Viriato

hi, excellent guide. I've two questions

1.- I'm playing with the julii. I'm traying to make alliances with the numidians, the thracians and the scythians... (i've already have trade rights and anyone of them are in war with the others roman factions)
The numidians reject my offers (i will continue later), but with the other two I don't have the choice to offer an alliance, because in the diplomatic window I don't have this option (in all cases I'm negotiating with citys and not with foreign diplomats). What's the matter?

2.- The guide tells that you can bribe anyone, but I'm trying to bribe a roman army, guided by a captain, and I don't have the choice to do that in the diplomatic window. I've installed Patch 1.2 (It's that a change of the patch?)

Thanks a lot.

1. Sometimes you cant offer an alliance to factions allied to those you are at war with (this inconsistent feature is also in Medieval 2). It also seems like alliances with factions that you have wiped out count towards this condition (definitely a bug if true).

2. I dont think you can bribe Romans before the civil war started as you are in a superalliance with the senate.

An interesting observation when buying settlements is that the AI seems to want less for 1+1 settlements than for 2 in one go. As the Brutii I had a treasure of some 80k and decided to buy Nicomedia and Ancyra from Pontus. I offer 60k for the bundle and they suggest that I pay 40k for 8 turns. But when I offer first 20k for Ancyra and then 30k for Nicomedia they accept...