This is a thread dedicated to fighting seige, both as attacker and defender, share ur thoughts and strategies on the various things concerning seige.

My thoughts. a seige is basically 3 stages, outside the walls, the fight for the walls, and the fight inside the city.
Initial stages:
Onagers/Heavy Onagers: a no brainer, but most close siege are decided by if you have enough of these mad machines or not, from my experience, if ur facing basic stone walls 1-2 basic onagers is enough, if you are facing large stone walls you will need at least 4 onager or 3 heavy onagers. if you face the highest lvl stone wall you better have at least 4-5 heavy onagers. when using onagers on defense it's a bit tricky but definately worth while.

If your attacking, always take out the gate first, unless you dont' have the number of onager you think you will need, then you take out the walls and it's surronding towers first.


If your defending with Onagers, try to aim for their onager or siege engine/general, it's tricky because it's possible that you hit ur wall and tower. but taking out their onager and/or seige engine is priceless.

Secondary stage:
There are 2 basic different approach to this, fight on the wall or fight through the breach, it highly depend on what you have to work with.

If you have enough good melee infantry then try to fight on the wall, if you have more calvary and OR phalanx units than don't fight on the walls. go through gates and breachs in the wall.

ON the wall: basically I think you should use ladders if ur facing basic stone walls and use seige towers if ur facing bigger walls, mostly because the basic seige tower don't have a machine gun mounted on them and ladders tend to be more effective in getting the troops acturally on the wall. though i'm sure others would have better seige tower strategy than myself. the key on the wall itself is to make suer u can get as many people on the wall as soon as possible. use troops that can fight well individually.. things like gladiators/arcani are very good in this situation, the Roman infantries are also great due to pilas, other good once are chosen swordsmen/desert axeman.

Through the breach: either make a breach with onagers or sap, this best thing to use in this situation would be phalanx, (both sides) if you are using mass calvary you MUST make multiple breach, at least 3 is preferred. obviously this always apply to fighting wooden walls. most strong heavy infantry are also good in this situation though heavy phalanx is always the best choice.

Final stage, Inside the city: much like the through the breach approach, phalanx is your friend no matter which side you are on, if you don't have phalanx than again use heavy infantry in possible, if you are defending you have the advantage in that it's a lot harder for the attacker to deploy ranged unit effectively, so if you are heavily out gunned in terms of seige equipment, you might seriously consider just defending the street right off the bat.

If you are using calvary, the key is NEVER get into extensive melee engagement, try to go around the other paths, but in general... calvary are not good for siege either way.

Some conclusion and generalizations:
1. Onagers is always the single most important thing to have if ur seiging stone walls.

2.Phalanx are the best thing to use inside the town.

3.If you are on the assult side don't bring many calvary/ranged units, use mass heavy infantry, preferablly phalanx infantry.

:) more inputs is appreciated!!!!