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    Swarthylicious Member Spino's Avatar
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    Default Historically Accurate Crowd Rejoice... Indian Elephants sighted!

    I was playtesting my elephant mod earlier this evening and it dawned on me that the War Elephants look different than I remember in this year's E3 video. In the video they were clearly Indian elephants and in the retail release of Rome they were changed back into African elephants. Either CA overlooked the fact that the Indian species were not enabled in the retail release or they decided to use the African variety because it is more recognizable and well.. cuter? Whatever.

    Anyway I did a simple search in the Data directory and sure enough, there they were... Indian elephant files.

    Simply open up the export_desc_unit.txt in the Data directory with Notepad and do a search for War Elephants.

    Look for the 'mount' references and change the phrase 'elephant african' to 'elephant indian'. Voila!

    type east elephant
    dictionary east_elephant_african ; War Elephants
    category cavalry
    class heavy
    voice_type Medium_1
    soldier east_elephant_archer, 18, 6, 1
    mount elephant indian

    It works like a charm and they look great. The models and textures are excellent are not cruder versions from earlier builds. It brings the Seleucid and Parthian armies a little closer to reality and certainly opens up new modding possibilities... I'd love to see new skins that feature Indian armor designs for these beasts!

    We should definitely request that CA officially restore these models in a future patch so MP'ers can use them without modding.

    I'll post this over in the Dungeon so modders are aware of it.

    Here's a link to the pic I posted over at TWC...

    Last edited by Spino; 10-05-2004 at 06:16.
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    Nice!

    I'm surprised noone else has commented on this.
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    Great find Spino :)

    LOTR modders can rejoice too

    http://stufs.wlu.edu/~davisjh/big_elephants.jpg

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    Default Re: Historically Accurate Crowd Rejoice... Indian Elephants sighted!

    African Elephant - average shoulder height: 10-13 feet
    Asian Elephant - average shoulder height: 8-10 feet

    So do they look a little smaller?

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    Default Re: Historically Accurate Crowd Rejoice... Indian Elephants sighted!

    Quote Originally Posted by Praylak
    African Elephant - average shoulder height: 10-13 feet
    Asian Elephant - average shoulder height: 8-10 feet

    So do they look a little smaller?
    The forest african elephants were actually smaller than the indian variety. The big sub-saharan one were to difficult to acquire and train

    Edit:Do the large elephants do more damage or no?


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    Quote Originally Posted by discovery1
    The forest african elephants were actually smaller than the indian variety. The big sub-saharan one were to difficult to acquire and train
    Yes, it's true. I know nothing of elephants so allow me to rephrase the question.

    Is there a size difference between the two elephants modelled in the game?

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    Default Re: Historically Accurate Crowd Rejoice... Indian Elephants sighted!

    Quote Originally Posted by Praylak
    African Elephant - average shoulder height: 10-13 feet
    Asian Elephant - average shoulder height: 8-10 feet

    So do they look a little smaller?
    Yes, Indian elephants are smaller than African elephants in the game. Oddly enough the default War Elephants seem slightly smaller than Armored Elephants even though they are the same breed. CA slightly enlarged the Armored Elephant model to make it look more menacing.
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    You're the man Spino!!!
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    Default Re: Historically Accurate Crowd Rejoice... Indian Elephants sighted!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulstan
    Great find Spino :)

    LOTR modders can rejoice too

    http://stufs.wlu.edu/~davisjh/big_elephants.jpg
    ROTFL Awesome!!!

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    Default Re: Historically Accurate Crowd Rejoice... Indian Elephants sighted!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulstan
    Great find Spino :)

    LOTR modders can rejoice too

    http://stufs.wlu.edu/~davisjh/big_elephants.jpg
    The description CA wrote for those eles is pretty funny too:

    {cheat_oliphants} Yubtseb Elephants

    {cheat_oliphants_descr}
    These mysterious creatures from the middle principalities of farthest Terra Nova are the children of of G'nitek'ram, the God of Shiny Things That Man Does Not Need But Desires Anyway. Dark and foul are the ceremonies that summon them; great and scary are their tusks; terrible is their gaze; unwashed are their riders; cruel and unforgiving their masters! Flee in terror! Run for the hills!


    {cheat_oliphants_descr_short}
    These terrible creatures are fearsome monsters indeed, called forth from the farthest corners of distant lands to strike terror into the very souls of enemies.

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by son of spam
    The description CA wrote for those eles is pretty funny too:

    {cheat_oliphants} Yubtseb Elephants

    {cheat_oliphants_descr}
    These mysterious creatures from the middle principalities of farthest Terra Nova are the children of of G'nitek'ram, the God of Shiny Things That Man Does Not Need But Desires Anyway. Dark and foul are the ceremonies that summon them; great and scary are their tusks; terrible is their gaze; unwashed are their riders; cruel and unforgiving their masters! Flee in terror! Run for the hills!


    {cheat_oliphants_descr_short}
    These terrible creatures are fearsome monsters indeed, called forth from the farthest corners of distant lands to strike terror into the very souls of enemies.

    lol
    Yeah, and what is Yubtseb and G'nitek'ram backwards?
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