Multiplayer is the future

**CBR** · 10-27-2004, 15:26

And to quote from that link:

"There won't be a multiplayer campaign using the full single-player campaign game - the games would take so long it's just not practical. We're looking at the option of a massively multiplayer campaign with a simpler feature-set where players join a faction and play when they like. No promises yet..."

And I guess they scrapped it as it wasnt practical either.

If you want a game with any meaningful strategy/tactics you have to play with a few dedicated players as there is just no point in playing it if some players drop out. Armies will disappear or become controlled by the AI..how much fun is that?

CBR

**hellenes** · 10-27-2004, 16:00

Originally Posted by CBR

And to quote from that link:

And I guess they scrapped it as it wasnt practical either.

If you want a game with any meaningful strategy/tactics you have to play with a few dedicated players as there is just no point in playing it if some players drop out. Armies will disappear or become controlled by the AI..how much fun is that?

CBR

If ANYONE drops the solution is more simple than simple: Another one takes his place... clan wars passworded ability to control diplomats factions and MANY other things JUST like RPGS...The only RTS with diplomacy online!!! If you are the ONLY clan member online you just search for a high ranking (on the ladder ranks) general to fight your battles that you cant yourself...Treachery risks just like real life the whole 270 bc roman world ALIVE with living humans not jist a STUPID "AI"...

Hellenes

**CBR** · 10-27-2004, 17:57

Provide a link please

CBR

**Orda Khan** · 10-27-2004, 20:16

To contradict the title of this thread, MP ( with regards TW ) is history. Nothing can convince me that CA will ever make a decent MP experience out of this game. Too transfixed on graphics they were and lost the plot along the way. Sp00n said it all in one of his posts....STW was the best and probably a fluke because they have never reproduced it. MP battles do not require stunning 3D graphics, nor do SP battles for that matter, it is of no use except for viewing replays ( and we all know what CA forgot )

I also agree with Sp00n when he says CA needs competition, something to kick their complacent butts into improving their product and I have long since touted trade descriptions! My hands are tied all shapes regarding my company and what I can and can't say or do by law, regarding our customers and quite frankly I find it amusing that games can be released in such an unfinished state! It's hilarious!

Yes Sp00n, imagine buying a Porsche 911 with no engine.......would we all complain? I think so.

As for this game? It's tat CA and I really hope some serious competitor arrives soon

.......Orda

**UglyandHasty** · 10-27-2004, 20:35

Amen to that Orda !

**andrewt** · 10-27-2004, 23:09

Companies mostly think that online MP is the future and many invested heavily on it but the actual numbers is that SP still rules. Games like the Sims, GTA, etc. all don't have multiplayer but are ruling the sales charts. I used to play multiplayer a lot but have stopped and haven't played one in a long time. I may get back to it someday with the right game but currently, SP is way more enjoyable.

There's just too many jerks online to make it a pleasant experience for most people. I've read many stories about how people try out online MP for a while then go back to SP or LAN MP or single console MP because of the people they play with. Fact is, people only want to play with or against people they know or trust. There's too many cheaters, sore losers, poor winners, etc. online. It's just not a pleasant experience.

The reason MP is more popular in countries like Taiwan and South Korea is PC bangs. You can play MP with other people and still be close enough to beat the crap out of them if they cheat or just plain act like an ass. You can't do that in online MP and until they figure out a way to allow you to clock your annoying opponent, online MP won't take off to the degree you think it will.

Blizzard makes polished MP games but the amount of whining on their forums is even worse than the ones in this forum. For most companies, it's just not worth it to invest heavily in MP, from both a financial, professional and personal perspective. 50% of the abuse for 1% of the sales is an understatement. For even successful companies like Blizzard, it's around 10% of the sales and more than 95% of the abuse. Terrell Owens, Ron Artest and Bobby Knight are saints and paragons of virtue compared to many MP players.

**d6veteran** · 10-28-2004, 00:52

What are PC Bangs?

I know everyone keeps throwing these numbers around but ... I just don't get it. Every single person I know through work and school ... every single gamer I know ... loves the MP experience, and actively seeks games with great MP. I wonder if these numbers account for LAN parties or LAN gaming at work?

I don't get it. I don't know where the other 99% are who are buying games but not playing them online.

And don't let the horrible RTW lobby fool you -- there are much better alternatives where smacktards can me blocked/kicked/banned what not.