Multiplayer is the future

**CBR** · 10-27-2004, 17:57

Provide a link please

CBR

**Orda Khan** · 10-27-2004, 20:16

To contradict the title of this thread, MP ( with regards TW ) is history. Nothing can convince me that CA will ever make a decent MP experience out of this game. Too transfixed on graphics they were and lost the plot along the way. Sp00n said it all in one of his posts....STW was the best and probably a fluke because they have never reproduced it. MP battles do not require stunning 3D graphics, nor do SP battles for that matter, it is of no use except for viewing replays ( and we all know what CA forgot )

I also agree with Sp00n when he says CA needs competition, something to kick their complacent butts into improving their product and I have long since touted trade descriptions! My hands are tied all shapes regarding my company and what I can and can't say or do by law, regarding our customers and quite frankly I find it amusing that games can be released in such an unfinished state! It's hilarious!

Yes Sp00n, imagine buying a Porsche 911 with no engine.......would we all complain? I think so.

As for this game? It's tat CA and I really hope some serious competitor arrives soon

.......Orda

**UglyandHasty** · 10-27-2004, 20:35

Amen to that Orda !

**andrewt** · 10-27-2004, 23:09

Companies mostly think that online MP is the future and many invested heavily on it but the actual numbers is that SP still rules. Games like the Sims, GTA, etc. all don't have multiplayer but are ruling the sales charts. I used to play multiplayer a lot but have stopped and haven't played one in a long time. I may get back to it someday with the right game but currently, SP is way more enjoyable.

There's just too many jerks online to make it a pleasant experience for most people. I've read many stories about how people try out online MP for a while then go back to SP or LAN MP or single console MP because of the people they play with. Fact is, people only want to play with or against people they know or trust. There's too many cheaters, sore losers, poor winners, etc. online. It's just not a pleasant experience.

The reason MP is more popular in countries like Taiwan and South Korea is PC bangs. You can play MP with other people and still be close enough to beat the crap out of them if they cheat or just plain act like an ass. You can't do that in online MP and until they figure out a way to allow you to clock your annoying opponent, online MP won't take off to the degree you think it will.

Blizzard makes polished MP games but the amount of whining on their forums is even worse than the ones in this forum. For most companies, it's just not worth it to invest heavily in MP, from both a financial, professional and personal perspective. 50% of the abuse for 1% of the sales is an understatement. For even successful companies like Blizzard, it's around 10% of the sales and more than 95% of the abuse. Terrell Owens, Ron Artest and Bobby Knight are saints and paragons of virtue compared to many MP players.

**d6veteran** · 10-28-2004, 00:52

What are PC Bangs?

I know everyone keeps throwing these numbers around but ... I just don't get it. Every single person I know through work and school ... every single gamer I know ... loves the MP experience, and actively seeks games with great MP. I wonder if these numbers account for LAN parties or LAN gaming at work?

I don't get it. I don't know where the other 99% are who are buying games but not playing them online.

And don't let the horrible RTW lobby fool you -- there are much better alternatives where smacktards can me blocked/kicked/banned what not.

**ElmarkOFear** · 10-28-2004, 01:00

Think "internet cafe for games." One big place with lots of networked PCs where players pay to play on an hourly basis. I believe that is a good description, from my understanding, but I may be incorrect since I have never been inside a PC bang.

**ElmarkOFear** · 10-28-2004, 01:07

The reason the old STW and MTW lobbies were so civil was the private chat rooms for STW and the ban, kick, ignore features for MTW. RTW has no such features and thus it is like all the other RTS servers out there: Wild and Unruly. Even the WarHammer chat lobby, which I find fairly well done, is full of bad-mouthed children who know they can get away with cursing and rabble-rousing online without any repercussions. THAT is what keeps a lot of people from playing MP: The bad language, the cheating, and the downright lack of anything remotely civil.

The previous TW lobbies were good because it allowed the community to police itself and ignore the troublemakers and ban them so they could not get into your games. It worked very well. Unfortunately, this is one of my biggest complaints about the MP chat lobby for RTW: No features to allow for any policing and organizing play between friends.