Quote Originally Posted by Dionysus9
I've looked very closely at d6's dissent ...
Hmmm, I didn't look at it that way


The reality is you can forge ahead with the petition without me. The other members of my clan frankly are pretty focused on the single palyer bugs right now and we're having a decent time with the multiplayer. I respect those guys cuz I think they are giving the RTW MP some legs before deciding on what fixes are needed.

I agree with like 80-90% of the list. I don't consider it dissent or anything negative that I'm questioning some of the issues. More importantly I the point I was trying to make is I believe we need to throttle our anxieties/excitement and not go off half cocked.

My perspective is that the majority of you want to make MTW2. I mean no offense when I say that the RTW MP community can't possibly have played the game enough to be confident that all the items on that list are appropriate *fixes* or *improvements* to the game.

Like the unit tax. Am I too believe that all the people that have signed are certain a 4+ tax is going to improve the game?

And the general's rally ability ... you don't have to zoom in to rally. You simply select your general and use his ability. This is a great feature! Am I too believe that everyone that has signed this petition hates that feature? It's frustrating that you've all come to that 'consensus' after such a short period. I couldn't even barely connect to play up till this week!


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Regarding selecting multiple factions ... I didn't communicate well perhaps. I do like the idea of selecting multiple factions. I extracted the pak files and did a lot of sifting and I *think* the colors are part of the models. I don't think they are painted on. This could be why you cannot select multiple factions, because then they would be the same color. This is also why multiple colors are probably not available. I'm guessing.

If that assumption is correct, then perhaps the solution is to remodel the banners and *those* would be different colors (and allow you to distinguish between two players running the same faction).

My concern on this one is this: it could really break competitive play if you cannot have the same faction chosen by more than a single player. So, given the importance of this issue, it is really in this communities best interest to find out exactly how the colors are modeled. THEN, ask for/come up with a solution. Does anyone see my point here?

We've waiting an extra year for this game since E3 2003. So why not wait an extra 3 months playing the game and developing a list along the way. I think everyone is too eager to ask for changes that may be either the wrong changes or just not thought out or considered properly.

I mean one way to look at the multiple faction issue, is in the meantime we are forced to play a variety of factions. To be honest I like the color Red and I like the Romans ... I probably wouldn't be playing much of any other faction were it not for the fact I don't get the Julii quick enough when I play online ;)

I don't perceive myself as a dissenter ... and I slightly resent the label ... I love the game and the community and really believe that any organized petition should be well thought out and not half baked. And that is how I perceive the initial list frankly. If you all disagree with me then the reality is one less signature won't matter. ;)