Siege towers

**Ryttare** · 10-06-2004, 20:49

Was kinda stupid, curiosu if it have happened to anyone else.
Felt like i was playing lemmings, they pushed up the tower, climbed through it, laid down the bridge and was about to climb over, when there is a small hole between the tower and the wall... So all my precious urban cohorts come crashing down and getting mooshed on the ground.... one after one, all of them, dead =D
Im guessing bug?

**metatron** · 10-06-2004, 21:27

Sounds like it. Maybe they should've pushed farther. ;)

**Colovion** · 10-06-2004, 21:32

That's embarrassing for the leader of that unit.

"Yeah that should be far enough - LET"S GO!"

**Oaty** · 10-06-2004, 23:49

Bug? Of course not.

Watch what happens when you have a full tower get hit by a catpult, or better yet hit an enemies tower with a catapult.

Towers are great when going against a large stone wall or an epic because the men have huge towers that al 160 me can flood out in 2 seconds.

I do'nt mind the towers for regular stonewalls except for the fact fact that only so few get in the intitial rush that over half the unit is lost on ground level and when they engage they quit climbing. Because of that bug they need to make all towers the same. Another bug is once a unit starts fighting to the death on the wall they may never leave that status even if the whole enemy has been chased off the wall. An easier solution would be to make walls give plus 20 morale that way you can command them but once theyleave foot they can route

**econ21** · 10-07-2004, 01:11

I tried my first siege against a stone wall and was pleasantly surprised - so much more interesting than just using battering rams against a wooden one.

My battering ram was set on fire before it got near the gate - are they always so useless?

The tower was great - got my hastati onto the wall with no problem. Very slow, but sure (the enemy towers did not target that particular unit Watching some defending falxmen battle them on the wall was the best visuals yet. Luckily my archers on the ground had greatly thinned out the falxmen; the pila of the hastati also helped.

I liked how the hastati from the siege tower silenced the invisible archers in the castle towers and opened the gate for my main army.

A sapping point seemed very effective, but - due to the prolonged fire from castle towers - going in through that route seemed much more costly than using a siege tower to seize the gate.

Anyone got any hints or other experiences on sieges?

**GFX707** · 10-07-2004, 01:39

One thing that I think is completely stupid is that the smallest siege tower costs the exact same amount as the colossal iron-plated one!

why is that? Makes it kind of pointless to build epic or large walls....the huge one should cost 3 times as much imo....

**Oaty** · 10-07-2004, 17:00

How do you open the gate without a battering ram and no spy? Is it if you troops over the wall they will open the gates within a certain proximity?

**ChaosLord** · 10-07-2004, 17:23

Your troops have to take the gateway, just by moving through it and no enemy troops being there I think. For sieges I usually stick to ladders/sap points myself, rams fall way too easily. Thats only for stone walls+ though, I use ballistas to take out the gates of the lesser defenses.

Has anyone had any huge siege battles yet? I had one where it was 2-3k egyptians versus my 1200 Town Watch. Battle lasts awhile with my men bravely trying to hold the wall. It was great to see that little 'fighting to the death' icon flashing. They got slaughtered to a man but held off the enemy from getting to the gate for awhile. Once the gateway fell my general charged out into the oncoming horde to die a glorious death. Sadly I only took about 600 of them with me in the end. Thats not bad for Town Watch versus Desert Axemen/Nile Spearmen though.

**Oaty** · 10-07-2004, 17:54

CHAOSLORD you do know you can still train units while undersiege right? Considering it was a stonewall there were probabaly some decent buildinds to train at least a semidecent unit for the assault next turn. So you could have got an early legion cohort who could have made the wall even harder to fall or put them at the gate. Since you could have got them to fight to the death I'm sure they would have ben well worth there weight in denari. The only thing it might do is shorten the siege as there are now extra men to starve but then again they came from the city so in all reality the food supply should stay the same.

On another note why does the population grow on a town that is under siege? umm should'nt they be starving too? I know it comes down to the fact of starving them into submission but it should also take a toll on the citezens.