Trigger for the Marius Reforms

[X6_861]

I looked around the forum and couldn't find any mention of this, but I'd like to give my theory on what triggers the Marius Reforms.

I got mine around 230 B.C., the exact same year I managed to build an Imperial Palace. I was intrigued and went to a previous saved game where I had the Imperial Palace still qeued up, and used the "process_cq Carthage" cheat, and like magic, the Marius Reforms happened.

[Lord_Winter]

Imperial Palace i think it is...got it even earlier...

[Nerouin]

According to the Prima Strat Guide, it's when you build an Urban Barracks

[Arakasi]

From the posters on total war center, it is when you get the imperial palace.

[sapi]

i think it's the imperial palace....

[Sinner]

It's definitely the Imperial Palace. I changed the starting position file so that I could begin building it in the first turn, doing nothing else whatsoever, and as soon as it completed I got the Marius Reforms.

[Marius Maxentius]

And for that, my friends, you need a Huge City. Guess what? Last night I hit the Marius Reforms for my Scipii campaign in Capua... at 247 B.C.

[Red Harvest]

CA says it is the Imperial Palace, and will happen no matter which Roman faction (except the Senate) builds one first. However, CA is working on a change for a coming patch so that the reforms won't happen so early--it will have some sort of time element to the trigger.

[X6_861]

Time released Marius reforms? Cool!

Maybe this can lead to a whole bunch of mods of different events in campaigns appearing.

[sapi]

my trigger was the START of imperial palace construction.

hehe...imperial palace....nero....hehe

[Hambut_bulge]

Deffo the Imperial Palace; I even get the Marian Reforms going in the Prologue around 300BC!!

I've done a limited trawl through the files in the data directories and it looks like it might be a hard-coded event in the executables - so we probably can't mod it to be a little more realistic.

[element]

I agree a timed reform would be great. I hardly ever get to use triarii spearmen in battle because i have hit the reforms. I know you end up getting better units with the reforms... but i'd like to at least get all my pre-marius units before i get post marius units.. just seems more real that way.

[Marius Maxentius]

my trigger was the START of imperial palace construction.

hehe...imperial palace....nero....hehe

Odd. My reforms didn't occur untol the Imperial Palace was constructed. I spent those six-or-so turns dismantling my current armies. My empire was at relative peace with the others, so I wasn't all too afraid of an attack.

[sapi]

in my game it could be that someone else finished an imperial palace as i started mine....