The Perfect Army

**DisruptorX** · 10-11-2004, 05:02

The perfect army would be nothing but Cataphract archers. Not only are they some of the best archers in the game, but they are all but immune to missles and can beat most infantry in hand to hand.

**The_678** · 10-11-2004, 06:21

Originally Posted by DisruptorX

The perfect army would be nothing but Cataphract archers. Not only are they some of the best archers in the game, but they are all but immune to missles and can beat most infantry in hand to hand.

^^^^^
That is so sad but true

**footman** · 10-11-2004, 07:06

haha1

5 royal spike man and 15 macedonian heavy calary

or 20 spartons

**AngryGerbil** · 10-11-2004, 07:09

Originally Posted by DisruptorX

The perfect army would be nothing but Cataphract archers. Not only are they some of the best archers in the game, but they are all but immune to missles and can beat most infantry in hand to hand.

I've only played as Julii and Gauls on campaign mode so far and as such, have only really fought signifigantly against Germania, Brittania, Spain, Thrace, Daicia, Carthage, Greece, Macedon and Rome....

Who gets these Cataphracts? Seludcids? Pontians?

**sakuraoni** · 10-11-2004, 21:01

how do you get cataphract archers? im playing as the parthians but i dont see the unit in the tech tree?

**DisruptorX** · 10-11-2004, 23:17

To answer your questions, the Armenians get them. I don't know about others.

**footman** · 10-12-2004, 01:14

Originally Posted by sakuraoni

how do you get cataphract archers? im playing as the parthians but i dont see the unit in the tech tree?

it's armenia 's army

**DisruptorX** · 10-12-2004, 05:30

Originally Posted by footman

it's armenia 's army

yea....I don't know why I said scythia. It is indeed Armenia.

**Sinner** · 10-12-2004, 10:05

If it's a 'wishlist' Roman army, then it'd have to be...

- General... with the traits/ancilliaries and time spent in a city with an Imperial Palace to give him max bodyguard of 54.
- Another 3 non-commanding Generals... these have the same stats as the main general, so can replace him if he dies, lead detachments, garrison captured cities, etc plus their bodyguard is the equivilant of Praetorian Cavalry, but with 2 hitpoints.
- 8 Urban Cohorts
- 8 Archer Auxilia
- Assassin
- Diplomat
- Spy

And since it's wishlist, all troops have been produced in cities, then retrained and even bribed away from their original owner if necessary to give the best possible starting experience, morale, attack and armour bonuses.

For a 'realistic' army...

- General
- 2 Praetorian Cavalry
- 2 Mercenary Scythian Horse Archers
- 8 Urban Cohorts
- 7 Archer Auxilia
- Assassin
- Diplomat
- Spy

I wouldn't bother with artillery, prefering the greater mobility. If I find a wooden walled city I'll try bribery and if the cost is too much or my diplomat fails, then I'll either build a ram & attack or starve the defenders out. For stone walled cities, it's bribery or starvation.

If I really had to have an assault army, probably the following...

General
4 Heavy Onagers
3 Urban Cohorts
2 Mercenary Peltasts
2 Spanish Mercenaries
2 Cretan Archers
4 Mercenary Hoplites
2 Mercenary War Elephants

The mercs would be used to roll back the enemy defences allowing my Urban Cohorts to casually stroll through the ruins telling each other massive lies about how they won the battle. Then I'd dock the surviving mercs a week's pay for having untidy uniforms.

**R3dD0g** · 10-14-2004, 23:43

Originally Posted by Sinner

... And since it's wishlist, all troops have been produced in cities, then retrained and even bribed away from their original owner if necessary to give the best possible starting experience, morale, attack and armour bonuses.

For a 'realistic' army...

- General
- 2 Praetorian Cavalry
- 2 Mercenary Scythian Horse Archers
-...

I haven't bought any mercs yet. Are they still untrainable?